9. Your Lovejoy Gig Questions ANSWERED!

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Hello and welcome to episode 8
of the Lovejoy Nation podcast.

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Welcome back Angie and Dave.
What's been going on with you

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guys?
What's new in your?

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World.
Hey, Leslie.

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Well, other than I guess the
obvious tour, I'm having two

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days to frantically scramble and
decide which which dates we're

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going to.
Not much.

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How about you, Dave?
Last week we went to see

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Youngblood, he was playing down
in Southampton.

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Absolutely fantastic, Really,
really impressive.

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Really impressed with him.
What a rock'n'roll show really

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was good.
And he seems like a good guy.

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I keep seeing him come up on my
tik toks and seeing his

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relationship with Ozzy and stuff
is bitter sweet to see.

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Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, he he's catapulted into

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something even bigger just since
the Aussie gig, but he's always

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been on the way up and up and
up.

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And since the Aussie gig,
bearing in mind they all

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performed for free.
But since then, many, many more

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people rock.
Fans like him.

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Yep, he's becoming more of a
household name I'd say.

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Yeah, definitely.
But yeah, that's the only sort

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of thing I've been up to apart
from end of year school stuff.

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No, all that exciting stuff.
That is exciting when you're the

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kid that's ending school for
summer break.

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Yeah, other than buying a
ridiculous amount of tickets for

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Lovejoy shows, someone needs to
take my credit card away.

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I there's been a few things to
work.

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There's been a few things we
worked working on Lovejoy Nation

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related.
So we've created an online merch

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store.
If you go to our website,

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lvjynation.com, you'll see a
link for the store where you can

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see T-shirts that we designed
that say I'm with Rob.

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It was a play on words, you
know, with Rob as my witness

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from the single.
I made a Spotify playlist that

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was very Rob heavy when it first
launched to that it would get

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lots of streams when I played it
on repeat and I called it, I'm

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with Rob and Angie and her
daughter had shirts made-up to

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wear the summer fest saying I'm
with Rob and got a lot of nice

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feedback at the festival, right?
We did, Yeah, we had.

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We had people asking if we could
or if they could buy them.

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So there you are.
Here we go.

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So we have a couple options up
there for colors and things and

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also a Rob mug inspired by the
photo of Ash holding a mug that

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said Rob on it in big letters.
So check it out.

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We tried to keep prices low.
I'm just to have some fun with

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it and getting, you know, get it
out there for if anyone wants to

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wear the shirt to a gig, perhaps
it's just all in good fun.

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Absolutely with the art store.
It's currently in the US, but

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working, let's just say, the
rest of the world.

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So it's currently in the US, but
we'll get there.

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Very good.
Worth a mention there.

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Thanks, Dave.
I just wanted to bring up an app

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that I've learned about called
Fave FAVE.

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It's an app for fans of
different fandoms to come

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together and share their fan
activities and earn points to

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become a verified super fan.
And thanks to to me, I'll give

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myself a little pat on the back
and nudging the people over at

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Fave for the past, oh, I don't
know, eight months or so to get

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Love Enjoyers up on there.
It's now there.

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So there's a Love Enjoyers
fanbase on the Fave Ambassador

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for Love Enjoyers on Fave.
It's a fun app It's free.

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They'll be a store opportunity
for anyone in the fandom that

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creates any kind of merch to
sell their items on there as

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well.
It's all integrated.

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It's really cool, it's fun, it's
up and coming, and music

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companies are involved.
I know Sony and Warner, they're

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behind, you know a lot of the
funding for this, so check it

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out.
The Fave app, FAVE, if you have

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trouble finding it.
Fave for Fans is what they call

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themselves.
Fave for fans.com is another way

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to find links to get the app as
well.

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So please check it out so we can
grow the love and joyers base

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up.
And you'll see other fandoms

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that you may want to join for
like Billy Eilish, Taylor Swift,

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Harry Styles, there's tons.
So you might find more fandoms

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you want to join.
Sorry, Harry Styles.

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Oh my God, I'm so excited.
Ed Sheeran, the Cheerios.

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I'm a Cheerio, so I'm in that
too.

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So on today's episode, we are
going to be very tour and

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concert heavy with our topics,
but also trying to keep this a

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lighter informative episode.
Then the last one, which we went

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a little long.
So we're going to be discussing

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the tour announcement with the
dates in the city's cost of

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touring, the VIP package that's
being offered and as well

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concert and Lovejoy gig
etiquette advice and Q&A from

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the fans that have sent us in
questions.

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So with that, we can get started
with the first piece of this the

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tour announcement.
Amazing one that I mean we all

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just got an e-mail, saw the the
socials.

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Wow, just Oh my God, it was just
a frenzy.

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It really.
Was, I was definitely not

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expecting that to be announced
so soon, but I think like a lot

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of other people guessed, there's
probably visas that play into

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this.
As we know they're not cheap and

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they probably wanted to squeak
in that North American tour

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while they still had valid
visas.

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So yeah, wow.
I felt like it really came out

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of nowhere.
And then you only had what, 2

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days before tickets went on
sale?

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So you had to get all your ducks
in a row and talk to your

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friends and figure out who's
going.

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Where?
And this is crazy.

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It was crazy for us Americans,
but poor Dave was lifting the

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dust a little bit there.
Absolutely gutted it come out

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North American tour and it's
like what?

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Isn't this an English band?
What the?

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Hell.
But well, no.

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When you talk about visas and
they you know, they were in

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America last year, that visa may
run for a year.

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So no, it absolutely makes
perfect sense to do the US and

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Canada first.
Yeah.

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And actually, when you look at
the tour dates for this, and

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it's the one simple tour playing
off of their album, which would

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be called One Simple Trick.
They start October 18th in

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Boston and they wrap up in New
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And so, yeah, that really
squeaks it in under the under

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the deadline, if you will,
because they believe the last

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date of the last tour in 2024
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So yeah, it's around that same
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Mark, they got to be in and in
and out before then.

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So.
Lots of big cities.

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I know I'm going to three of
them and so is Angie.

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Yes, I will be at Chicago,
Minneapolis and Washington DC

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How about you, Leslie?
I'll be meeting up with you in

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Chicago and Philadelphia, New
York, so it's going to be busy

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fall.
So let me get this right, I'm

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going to get a message and
photographs from both of you at

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a gig without flipping the bird
at me.

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I don't do that sort of thing.
Don't do that sort of thing.

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You'll get one from me now.
I'll get that.

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Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Maybe I'll do a tongue out face.

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Yeah, yeah.
And.

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I've got no doubt you've got VIP
then, so you'll have the boys

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behind you.
And then we'll be like with the

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set lists, Yeah, You know, Yeah.
The guitar picks.

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Yeah.
Oh, my aching neck from looking

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up at Will all night.
Yeah.

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We'll make sure we rub it in.
I'm just kidding, Dave, I am

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sure.
I am sure.

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I I'm sure there's Auk tour
right out right around the

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horizon.
I.

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Yeah, it makes sense.
Come home for Christmas, UK

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tour, If I loosely say end of
January, February, it makes

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sense, doesn't it?
It really does.

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It does.
OK.

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And European Tour.
That's my thoughts.

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Yeah, someone did mention on a
Lovejoy Instagram post they made

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a comment like there should be a
Brighton gig around the time of

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the album launch.
And Dave, I think you caught

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what Lovejoy's response was to
that.

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Yes, a shush emoji.
So one can only speculate.

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That's like a wink wink they
could have used as well.

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Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
I'm don't really know what to

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say to that apart from marry up
and get me an e-mail please

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because.
We're counting on you, Dave.

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We're counting on you to get
into that gig and give us a

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scoop.
If it happens.

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If yes, I should say big if.
It happens.

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I'm just hoping for VIP.
I think that 'd be pretty

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awesome, that.
Would.

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And do you know what?
I'm going to get the whole band

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selfie flipping their fingers
off to you 2 if that's the case.

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Dang, man, I told you I don't do
that sort of thing.

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He'll send it to me.
Yeah.

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Here, Angie, all three.
I put it in the wrong chat.

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Thanks, Dave.
Thanks for thinking to me.

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Not not a problem.
That would be like doubly

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heartbreaking because you'd be
with my favorite band in my now

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favorite city.
So Boo Hoo.

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But anyway, can't cry now
because, well, I can cry looking

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at my bank statement related to
this.

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Like sort of as we like to say,
Lovejoy adjacent is just

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thinking about the prospect of
this.

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I think it's 27 dates across the
United States and a few in

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Canada and just the thinking
about what a huge undertaking it

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is, right?
It's not that they just they're

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going.
It's not as if they're just

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going on a vacation and you're
Rd. tripping around the country.

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It's the expenses of it all.
It's a massive undertaking and

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it takes a lot of people to put
it together and figure out the

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finances of it all.
I know we you sometimes it's

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easy to forget, you know, paying
the cost of the crew, the sound

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engineers, lighting technicians,
you know Yovazal with his

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amazing lighting designs.
If they have to hire musicians

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on the road, the transportation
to get around the flights,

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shipping equipment here and
there, even shipping all the

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merch, make sure they're going
to have enough, you know, pre

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buying all of the merch and
items that they're going to give

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out to be sure they have enough
to cover all the the States and

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all those shows.
Absolutely.

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I mean we went to the
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N 3rd to last gig.
They had a couple of T-shirts

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and you thought yeah, yeah, I'll
have one of them.

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I haven't got that in that size.
We haven't got that in that size

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because we were at the end of
the tour and scutting because

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you couldn't get the one you
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Yes, we all come away happy with
the March, yeah, but not

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everything was there, which is a
bit was a bit of a shame.

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I think one thing people forget
about too, or maybe don't forget

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about, but at least maybe us in
the States, is the cost of just

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getting a visa to come over
here.

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And we were doing some research
ahead of this podcast.

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I found an Associated Press
article from April of 2024, the

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visa fees for international
artists to tour in the US went

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up 250%.
It's it's over $1600 just to

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apply for the visa.
So I mean, if you take that and

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you don't think about all of the
people that need to come over

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here, band crew, you know,
you've got LED, you've got

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Misha, you know.
Equipment getting over here.

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You've seen them in the vlogs
with the piles of boxes of

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equipment that you know, buying
one extra suitcase to check in

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costs like 100 bucks can.
I can't even imagine to bring

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all that equipment on an
airplane if they have to rent

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things here.
You know, rent drum sets and

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amplifiers and sound system.
And that's £1600 per person.

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Yes.
Per, not just not per band,

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right, per person for the visa.
Yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, it's at six.
Yeah, 1600.

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Well, it was U.S. dollars, so I
don't know what that translates

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to, but yeah.
Yeah.

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But yeah, about that.
So, I mean, you can spend, I

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mean, probably close to $20,000
or more just just to be able to

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come over here, get here.
And maybe that doesn't sound

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like a lot of money if you're,
you know, Taylor Swift or

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Beyoncé.
But if if you're a small indie

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rock band, that's a heck of a
lot of money.

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Yeah, it's their debut album.
It's a, this is a big

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undertaking.
As I've said, I keep using that

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word, but it's, it's true.
And there's the venue costs are

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that are related.
It's not free just to play at a

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venue.
There's venue staff, there's the

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back line, there's performance
fees or ticket fees or the venue

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takes a portion.
Marketing, advertising,

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publicity, all of this.
You got to give your supporting

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acts your supporting acts.
They're not, they don't work for

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free insurance, taxes, so much
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So I just, I think that's
important for folks to realize

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when they're getting their
credit card out and buying these

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tickets.
It's it's exciting for us, It's

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meaningful for them and it's
important.

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It's as much as it's a
fundraiser, it's a fand raiser

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as I'd like to call it.
And that's probably the bigger

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goal here is to build that
audience streaming, listening,

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purchasing the music, purchasing
the merch, expanding that so

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they, yeah, to grow.
Yeah, let's face it, everything

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from the last, I'll loosely say
World Tour.

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Everything's gone up in price as
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Oh, for sure.
You know, cost of hotels, cost

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of this, cost of that,
absolutely everything's gone up.

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Tariffs on things.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Tariffs, yeah.
Yeah, they're food.

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You know, like everywhere they
go, the tour bus or the whatever

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they're using to get around or
to carry their equipment,

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vehicles to carry the equipment.
It's a lot to to budget for.

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I don't think they go out on
tour to make money.

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I don't think anybody goes out
on tour to make money unless,

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again, you're one of these huge,
huge stars, which is what

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percentage of the artists out
there today.

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Right, they don't they don't see
just 100% of the ticket sales in

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In fact, they have to pay
everybody back first before they

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see a dime.
The actual musicians in the

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band.
So just we just wanted to touch

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on that.
And now we'll just head into

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let's talk about the VIP
package, let's talk about

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something fun that you could
spend your money.

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Just chat amongst yourselves in.
Angie's our resident VIP package

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expert.
At least she has two under her

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belt.
I don't have any.

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Dave doesn't have any.
We just, it hasn't been such a

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thing that's been offered for
the shows I've gone to, so

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hasn't happened yet for me.
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I don't know about an expert.
I've done 2 Pebble and I did one

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for mother, mother and then we
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And I am really, really pumped
about this package that we're

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being offered by Lovejoy, right,
Leslie?

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I mean, this is pretty.
Sweet.

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I'm having trouble sleeping at
night thinking about what I'm

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going to say to the band and not
scare them away or not fumble

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over my words or, as I said, the
Christmas story scene.

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I just keep picturing myself as
Ralphie getting pushed down the

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slide trying to tell Santa what
he wants for Christmas and Busta

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being the elf pushing me down.
Pushing you off the stage.

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Do you get the visual there,
Dave?

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Yes.
Have you seen a Christmas story?

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A football?
A football wonder?

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Red Rider BB got composites
talk.

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If you haven't.
Watched it, go watch.

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It's yes, it's a classic.
It's a classic for sure.

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But when we I'm trying to think
the price that we paid for each

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of those VIP packages, both
Mother Mother and good kid was

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almost exactly the same give or
take as Lovejoy is charging for

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theirs.
And it didn't include really all

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of the things that Lovejoy is
offering here.

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I mean like for Mother Mother
instead of a meet and greet we

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had a pre show acoustic like 20
minutes set plus AQ and a which

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was cool.
A good kid did do an acoustic

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set and they did a quick meet
meet and greet which was fun.

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But as far as like a signed
poster, the anvil card pack,

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stuff like that.
Like we didn't get all of those

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extra little goodies.
I know just thinking about what

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the they could start they would
charge for a signed poster by

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itself right?
And then plus the crossword

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mission, absolutely, you also
get early access, so maybe you

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don't have to wait outside for
12 hours, right, Right.

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The VIP, what was on offer?
I went back because I had a

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picture from 2023 of the merch
and am I right with the VIP?

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They're offering some special
limited merch thing fill card

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packs which I'm really excited
about.

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Signed poster.
Is there anything else?

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Early Access and.
Early access now looking back

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and you'll all, you'll all sort
of say the same and think you've

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gone to the Lovejoy gig.
What merch have you bought?

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How much does it cost?
That's without any VIP.

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You've all bought T-shirts,
you've all bought hoodies.

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There's almost $80 there, or
£80.

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Yeah, the.
Cost of the ticket itself.

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The cost of the ticket itself,
whether I mean in the UK they

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were doing some discounted
tickets and then you had the

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regular price tickets and it was
first come first serve on the

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discounted tickets.
But whether you bought a regular

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price ticket $150.00 even £150
in the UKI mean posters were a

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tenner in the UK.
And that's cheap actually,

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because I was just looking at
the resources for teaching the

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tour and it was £25 for a
poster, not sign.

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Yeah, might have been 15, but
they were, certainly.

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Looking at 2024 versus 2023 as
well, yeah.

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For me, value of the VIP and
let's face it, I can get in

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early and have a wee, do you
know what I mean?

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That's worth it to you?
That's that's value of.

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This has got to be fantastic for
me.

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Limited edition match OK could
be a lanyard.

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I'm of Lovejoy VRP.
It'd be a little bit

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disappointing.
Could be a special tote bag,

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could be who knows what it could
be.

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I think it's well worth every.
Single.

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Yeah, just because it's
exclusive and you know, it's not

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something everybody, yeah gets,
and that's fine.

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But because the Anvil cards is
huge, you know a lot.

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Absolutely, absolutely.
And I know there's been, as

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Leslie said, there were some
listeners who sent in questions

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about the shows and VIP and
other things in general.

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So thank you for that.
And I know they will be getting

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to those questions and we can
talk some more about the details

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of VIP then too.
But I mean really overall, I

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think it's a fantastic deal and
it sounds like you guys agree

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so.
An opportunity to meet the band

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is is incredible because they
could they could sort of be

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elusive.
The band members running in and

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out of the venue and that's
their that's completely their

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right, you know, so that they
don't want to get sick or they

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are just in a they're focused or
there aren't just want to get in

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and out.
The fact that they're offering

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this opportunity is huge.
And I think it's great for them

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to have the time to interact
with fans and I think that'll be

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very special and meaningful to
the fans.

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And I think it's good for them
too, because to hear directly

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from from the fans has got to be
touching instead of it just

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being digital on a screen all
the time or just screaming

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random nonsense in the crowd.
But to actually be face to face

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and have those little moments.
Absolutely.

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I mean.
Feels good for everybody.

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The other night at Youngblood,
he announced one of the last

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things he said.
I'll be outside in 20 minutes.

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So there was this whole space
with, with railings barricaded

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off and all that and everybody
just went outside.

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But we couldn't get anywhere
close to get into him.

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People that had maybe met him,
shook his hand or or had a

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selfie were not moving away.
No, if you were loosely, say,

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forthright back, you saw the top
of his head.

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You couldn't without put and
people weren't Oh, I've been

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seen to.
I'll move away.

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Right, right.
So for me, doesn't matter

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whether you're first in the
queue or whether you're last in

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the queue, going to have that
special moment, the band.

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And, and it's good that it'll be
in a, it sounds like it'll be in

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a structured Safeway for
everybody.

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Absolutely.
And I think I know there's been

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sort of a maybe not so much the
culture, but sometimes sometimes

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almost sort of a, an expectation
that maybe you'll see the band

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or possibly run into them.
I will.

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I mean, it does happen.
And they've always been

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extremely kind and sweet and
accommodating.

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But when it comes down to it,
when you buy a general admission

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ticket to a show, you're buying
a ticket to the concert and you

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shouldn't have any other
expectations attached to that if

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something, if you do happen to
meet them outside, like awesome,

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fantastic, right?
But and I think that's something

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that we all need to remember and
keep in perspective too, as we

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talk about the VIP packages and
you know, also still the

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possibility of will they be out
after the show?

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Will they not be out after the
show?

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And.
Accessible or not?

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Yes, yeah.
I think that's where I'm going

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for accessibility and I think
that's still something to keep

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in mind.
Yeah, it's no different to when

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I go to Brighton.
I do not ever expect to bump

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into any of them.
Do you know what I mean?

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So.
But yeah, but you're hopeful.

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I'm always hopeful, absolutely
for sure.

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Yeah, but but you're not going
to get mad that you didn't, No.

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Because my daughter was a little
bit younger.

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Do you think we'll see him
again?

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Do you think we'll see him
again?

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Don't bank on it.
If it happens, it happens.

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And it will happen for a reason.
Fate one day.

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But that could be in a year,
three years, five years, who

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knows?
All right.

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Yeah, I agree with you.
It seems like these VIP packages

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are popular.
I went through last night on

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Ticketmaster and Axis just to
see if I was able to purchase

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them.
Now disclaimer, just because I

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couldn't find them doesn't mean
that they may not still be

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available, so don't take my word
for it.

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If you are still looking for a
VIP package in any of these

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cities, please look, please call
the venue, please find out on

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your own because this is not
like set in stone.

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For Boston and Atlanta, I could
pick one VIP ticket but not 2.

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And for the cities of Chicago,
Salt Lake City, Los Angeles,

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Phoenix, Charlotte, Washington
DC, Philly and New York City, I

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was not able to find any VIP
tickets for those shows.

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So again, are they sold out?
Maybe, but it looks like they

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probably are again.
Or likely are.

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For them, yeah, they're they're
probably likely sold out.

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So it seems like they're pretty
popular, which I think is great.

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It's great for the band, it's
great for the fans.

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I feel like it's a win, win a.
100% And with that, I say we

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move along to our concert Q&A
advice for Lovejoy gigs.

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We got a ton of questions and we
just want to knock through them.

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Again, another disclaimer, just
we're not official Lovejoy.

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We are an unofficial fan podcast
and we can answer to the best of

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our ability, our best guesses,
but we'll also give advice to

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find out for sure some of the
answers to your questions that

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we are unable to guarantee our
the answers.

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So for the first one, will they
tour the UK and Europe?

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I think we can all with a lot of
confidence.

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I as I just said.
Thumbs up that and say yes.

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I said a few minutes ago,
guessing beginning of next year

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we'll all hear something for UK
European and let's face it,

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devolves everything like that
all around Europe.

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Makes sense to do the tour into
the summer.

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I hope they hit some countries
or cities that they haven't been

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to yet because we're always
seeing these fans in in other

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places, begging please come to
where I live.

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So that would be neat and
exciting for the band to go to a

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new place or new places.
They haven't been next.

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Question, what time to be there
for VIP?

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00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:33,080
Well, I can tell you that in my
past experience, if you have

449
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,680
purchased VIP packages, you will
get an e-mail about a week

450
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:41,400
before usually from it's usually
from the venue or the promoter,

451
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:45,440
someone associated with with the
venue and it will give you

452
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,720
details such as what time to be
there.

453
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:53,880
Both of the VIP experience that
I've had, there was one where we

454
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:58,920
went in pretty early.
It was I think maybe 630 doors

455
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:03,640
and they had us go in around
4:30 for the VIP event and then

456
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,800
they had us go back out and wait
until about 15 minutes before

457
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,000
the regular doors open and then
they let us in.

458
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:15,160
The other one we went in and we
stayed in.

459
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:19,880
We did not have to go back out.
So I would say if you have AVIP

460
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:24,040
package, basically we don't know
what time you're going to have

461
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,520
to go in, but it could be late
afternoon.

462
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:30,680
So I would advise that you keep
your calendar open that day so

463
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,560
that if you need to be there
much earlier than door open that

464
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,960
you are able to do so.
When they had you, yeah.

465
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,640
When they had you go back out,
were you in a separate line, the

466
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,640
general line?
So they had us wait in a

467
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,960
separate area and everybody was
good about getting back in the

468
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:53,400
order that they were in when we
when we went into the venue

469
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,920
initially.
Yeah, watch for an e-mail.

470
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,800
Like I said in my experience is
it's usually been about a week

471
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:04,440
out with a schedule and more
information next.

472
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,760
Question what's it like in the
pit?

473
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,280
For starters, pit to me is an
American term.

474
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:15,240
So what's the?
Pit near the stage in general

475
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,840
admissions and standing.
What's it like at the front?

476
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:19,880
Yeah, where you're just
standing.

477
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,800
Depends what band you see.
Yeah, when you're at a heavy

478
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,800
metal show, watch out.
But Lovejoy's not heavy metal.

479
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,720
All of all the Lovejoy shows
that I've been to in the pit,

480
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,160
it's really tame.
People are nice.

481
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,560
You will get the occasional
person that thinks that they

482
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:41,520
need to push their way through
everybody else, but honestly,

483
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:47,600
that's really rare.
Everybody seems to be very

484
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:53,320
respectful, very friendly, very
willing to help you if you have

485
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,680
an issue.
So I would say, you know, don't

486
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,920
worry about it if that's where
you want to be, I think that you

487
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:06,520
won't have any problems that the
people around you will be will

488
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:10,560
be kind and it's not crazy.
No, there's no moshing.

489
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,680
It's more just jumping up and
down during concrete and things

490
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:19,160
like that.
Yes, you, you will get sometimes

491
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,360
a small surge of people stepping
forward because somebody's

492
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:27,120
pushed behind that goes
sideways, front ways, whatever,

493
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:32,960
but everybody's good.
Grab hold of the next person or

494
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,440
person in front of you.
If you're going to get a search,

495
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,000
everybody's good.
Do you know what I mean?

496
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,920
Yeah, usually it's if you bump
on a shoulder or something

497
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,040
they'll they'll say I'm sorry,
I'm sorry.

498
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,040
Usually you get that actually
so.

499
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,400
Right.
It's really pretty tame I'd say.

500
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:54,520
One tip, if you are right on the
barricade, I would advise to you

501
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,400
that you, we call it the
starfish.

502
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,320
We call it the starfish,
especially with your elbows.

503
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:03,600
Take your up your elbows and
it's it's almost like you're

504
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,800
resting your arms on the
barricade in front of you, but

505
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,840
keep your elbows out so you've
got some extra space because if

506
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:17,000
you squeeze your arms and so
your elbows are touching, you

507
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:21,480
don't have space for your body.
And people might not even do it

508
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,520
on purpose.
They'll just fill in that space,

509
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:24,880
right?
Right, that space will get

510
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,720
filled in and you're going to
realize that you don't have any

511
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:32,400
room for your arms.
So make sure you maintain a

512
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,960
decent amount of space around
you and.

513
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,800
Keep your legs apart, your feet
apart.

514
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,400
Yes, keep your feet apart and
you know what?

515
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,520
You'll be just fine.
Yeah, I didn't say so.

516
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,600
All right.
How early to line up outside the

517
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:53,680
venue depends on how dedicated
you are and the the weather that

518
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:54,760
you're dealing with.
Yeah.

519
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,000
See, for me, I'll get there when
I get there.

520
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,720
Basically, I'm not rocking up at
5:00 AM.

521
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,000
Well, I think it's Angie and I.
We just can't.

522
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,680
You can't sleep anyway, so.
Right.

523
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,480
It's too exciting.
Yeah, I will see friends to hang

524
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:18,040
out with, yes.
Or children bothering you to get

525
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,080
out there because they just
can't take it anymore.

526
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:25,560
I will say if you do get there
like in the morning time, you

527
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:29,000
might be the first people there
and not you will not have needed

528
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,680
to be there that early because
the next round of people might

529
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,160
not show up for a few more
hours, which is I've seen.

530
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,040
So it's whoever gets their first
service starts the line right?

531
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:43,080
I know there's always been the
idea that, and it's been true

532
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,480
for the most part that the
culture around this fanbase is

533
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:51,360
that they queue extremely early.
And that definitely I think used

534
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:55,280
to be the case.
But in the last three shows, I

535
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,880
would say that I've gone to,
which have been within the past

536
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,840
year, that that has not so much
been the case.

537
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:06,760
I mean, people still get there
more than an hour before the

538
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:10,400
show starts, but I don't think
it's, it's not quite as

539
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:17,200
competitive or cutthroat or just
plain old bonkers as it was so.

540
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:21,120
Yeah, and I think even if you
got there a couple hours before,

541
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,440
you'll still be very up close.
Even if you're not touching the

542
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,680
barricade, you'll still be in
the, you know, in a very good,

543
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,480
happy place near this near the
stage.

544
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,680
And maybe even that view might
even be better.

545
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,280
Honestly.
People do say that, but being

546
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:36,840
too close is sometimes not
great.

547
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,200
You can't see the full stage as
well, so.

548
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,200
I'd agree with that, I.
Think you'll be fine.

549
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:47,760
I've been up front, I've been
right at the back for various

550
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:51,360
gigs, whatever, and to the
extent of when I saw the Prodigy

551
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:57,960
was in a small stadium and
actually sat back in the seats

552
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:02,800
at the back just to watch the
whole show other than be down

553
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,520
there, right?
Experience it differently in the

554
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,080
back.
Yeah, and these aren't huge,

555
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,360
huge venues either, so there's
probably really no bad place to

556
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:16,520
be in them.
So, OK, Next up.

557
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:21,679
How to avoid losing your voice?
Well, the best way to avoid

558
00:34:21,679 --> 00:34:23,600
losing your voice is not to yell
and scream.

559
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,040
But we all know that that is not
realistic, right?

560
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,600
Honestly, I mean, if you don't
want to lose your voice, you

561
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,040
probably will have to be mindful
not to be super loud.

562
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,719
I mean, that's really there's
no, I don't think there's any

563
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,800
special tricks.
Right, you can sing along

564
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,120
without screaming along the the
words.

565
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,880
To the song, right?
Yeah, I think that's just going

566
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,679
to be what you'll have to do.
Yeah, there you go.

567
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,520
I'm, I'm going to give you
ladies a little tip.

568
00:34:56,320 --> 00:35:00,520
Pineapple juice.
Really for after?

569
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,680
After.
Yeah, before, if you've got a

570
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,320
Husky voice the following day,
Pineapple juice.

571
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,880
OK, so I did ask for a remedy as
well, so that works.

572
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,720
Thanks.
With the condition that the

573
00:35:15,720 --> 00:35:19,960
wife's got and it affects the
throat and the breathing on

574
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:24,040
effects her voice, her voice
will go croak and all this lot.

575
00:35:24,240 --> 00:35:29,920
The amount of people who suffer
from this commend pineapple

576
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,240
juice.
Huh.

577
00:35:32,240 --> 00:35:36,000
For the vocal chords, so all
right.

578
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,240
Pineapple.
Juice for the vocal chords.

579
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:39,880
Very good.
Thanks, Dave.

580
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:41,000
Yeah.
Thank you.

581
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,640
You're welcome.
And now you've got the next

582
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:51,360
question.
How much recording is too much?

583
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,760
I'll start with this one, the
Youngblood gig.

584
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,320
My arms started to wake.
Put the camera down for 10

585
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,680
minutes.
Whatever you want, whenever you

586
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,520
want.
Sure you grab your favorite

587
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,600
song, all the songs that you
want covered.

588
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,560
Other than that, put the phone
down, jump around.

589
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:17,120
I very very rarely take any
video at shows.

590
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:24,920
Yeah, we know.
I much prefer to be in the

591
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:29,840
moment and I know that when I go
online I will find somebody who

592
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:35,480
has taken video of the same show
and it's going to be much better

593
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,240
than any sort of video that I
took.

594
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,640
You know, it's interesting.
I don't know if you guys are

595
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:46,480
familiar with the band Ghost.
On their current tour, they have

596
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:51,240
a policy that you have to put
your phone in a pouch when you

597
00:36:51,240 --> 00:36:53,240
enter the venue.
You are not allowed to have your

598
00:36:53,240 --> 00:36:56,240
phone out with you during the
show.

599
00:36:58,360 --> 00:36:59,480
Tobias Forge?
Yeah.

600
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:00,920
He essentially is.
Ghost.

601
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:05,240
He got so tired of seeing the
audience just stand there with

602
00:37:05,240 --> 00:37:09,520
their phones the whole time, and
nobody was engaging with, you

603
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,760
know, him or the band.
So he's like, you know what?

604
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,960
No phones.
Extremely controversial, I'm

605
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:14,920
sure.
Do you know what?

606
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,560
I think that's brilliant,
Absolutely brilliant.

607
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:21,360
Yeah, I like that.
I know Billy Joe from Green Day

608
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,560
would love that because he kept
saying like, put down the

609
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:28,000
phones, I mean.
Back in our day when I was

610
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:29,560
young, what my phone?
What's that?

611
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:35,120
It was a lighter.
Yes, yes, he'd wave your lighter

612
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,080
in the air.
OK, and there's something

613
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:43,120
special about that.
But now phone lights and there's

614
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,600
something wrong about that.
Take the videos you want of

615
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,920
video.
Like I say, take your favorite

616
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:54,200
song, whatever couple of songs,
but then certainly enjoy it.

617
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,400
I like to bring AI got a point
and shoot that's recommended on

618
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,840
the concert photography Reddit
because I'm into photography.

619
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,920
So at the last shows I did do
some videos of my favorite

620
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,640
songs, but I also tried to take
pictures with this point and

621
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:13,200
shoot, which I feel is a little
less distracting than trying to

622
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,200
video with the whole thing.
Just cat trying to capture some

623
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,800
cool photographs with the
lighting and all was was fun.

624
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,800
So yeah, there's no right or
wrong answer.

625
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,720
But don't forget, like Angie
said, be in the moment because

626
00:38:23,720 --> 00:38:25,760
watch because you end up
watching it sometimes through

627
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,440
the screen of your phone, which
is sad because the real things

628
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,480
right there in front of you, you
can watch it through that screen

629
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,600
another time.
You don't need to.

630
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,360
You paid to watch it live, so
watch it live.

631
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,240
And don't have your phone in
someone else's face, please.

632
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:42,840
Because they will not be happy
with you, right?

633
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,400
They don't want your phone, your
hand with your phone blocking

634
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,960
their view.
All righty.

635
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,520
Next up, how hot will the venue
get?

636
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,320
What to bring to prepare for it?
The venue will probably get hot,

637
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,840
especially, you know, if you're
the closer you are and the

638
00:38:55,840 --> 00:39:00,080
lights and the people and all
those bodies, yeah, it'll get

639
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,120
hot.
You cannot really bring in water

640
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,080
bottles, correct?
Like that's usually not a thing.

641
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,720
No, they want you to buy drinks
there if you're going to buy

642
00:39:08,720 --> 00:39:11,120
anything.
You don't go to a restaurant and

643
00:39:11,240 --> 00:39:14,840
take your own food.
How it was explained the other

644
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,720
week, but yeah.
Dress appropriately.

645
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,200
I know you want to have this
cool fit and you might like the

646
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,120
sweater a lot and like big boots
and all this, but think about

647
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,000
it.
No one's going to see this at

648
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,240
the bottom half of you anyway.
Just dress cool and comfortably

649
00:39:29,240 --> 00:39:33,560
smartly and sometimes they'll
even hand out water but you

650
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:39,160
can't count on that.
So hydrate before and grab a

651
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:43,960
drink after.
Yeah, or soon as you get in, if

652
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,280
there's a group of you, send
someone to get water.

653
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,760
Right.
You know this North American

654
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,120
tour, I know it's in the fall,
but it's going to be hot in

655
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,040
there.
You are not going to want a big

656
00:39:56,040 --> 00:40:00,760
sweater or hoodie.
What I like to do is wear

657
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,080
layers, wear a T-shirt and throw
a hoodie over it.

658
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,480
That way when you get into the
venue you can take the hoodie

659
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:10,640
off and Yep, Yep, absolutely,
absolutely.

660
00:40:10,720 --> 00:40:13,440
A lot of venues are good about
giving out water, but that's

661
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,320
definitely not a given, like
Leslie said.

662
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:20,760
Make yourself hydrate before the
show.

663
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,040
That is one of my worst fears,
not hydrating enough.

664
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,800
And then you get in there and
it's hot and you're packed in

665
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,040
with all these people and what a
bummer.

666
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,960
If you pass out, then you don't
get to see the rest of the show

667
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,880
anymore.
So yeah, make sure you are

668
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:36,440
drinking your water ahead of
time.

669
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,800
Very good.
That was a good.

670
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,680
Question.
Actually really good one.

671
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:45,760
Sure.
Next question, how to get a good

672
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,160
spot if you're short?
Well, I am extremely.

673
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:54,560
Short, no singer too.
To be honest, I try to get as

674
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:58,360
close to the front as I can and
that's a big reason for it.

675
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:03,560
If I'm more than, you know, 3 or
4 rows back, sometimes I have a

676
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:07,480
hard time seeing.
So I'm going to say either try

677
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:11,840
and get really close to the
front or a lot of these venues

678
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:15,720
on the North American tour look
like they have balconies.

679
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,760
I have seen some amazing video
and I've actually watched some

680
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,400
great shows from the balcony of
venues.

681
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:28,120
So if you're short, try and get
up front or consider, you know,

682
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,000
yeah, consider the balcony.
It's actually a really great

683
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,360
view and you don't have to worry
about tall people being in front

684
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:35,800
of you.
All righty, good advice.

685
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:42,680
Transportation tips Check
wherever you live how to get

686
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,440
there bus train.
I have a little spiel about

687
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,400
transportation and I'm going to
try and make it quick because

688
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,120
like I said, I'm feeling very
mother hunnish this episode.

689
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,520
Have someone drop you off or
pick you up.

690
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,880
If you can.
Check with the venue.

691
00:41:57,240 --> 00:41:59,760
A lot of times some of these
venues, they have a small

692
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,440
parking lot for free.
If you get there early enough,

693
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,680
sometimes there's a paid parking
lot nearby that you can reserve

694
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:09,200
in advance.
I really try to avoid parking

695
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,520
garages if I can.
Again, it's going to be late at

696
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:16,040
night if you're in an unfamiliar
area, you don't exactly want to

697
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,920
be walking through a parking
garage late at night trying to

698
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,200
find your car.
There are websites like Spot

699
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:25,880
Hero where you can look if it's
in a larger city and reserve a

700
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:29,480
parking spot.
If you are going to use an Uber

701
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:33,000
or a Lyft, and this is a result
of me listening to way too many

702
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,800
true crime episodes, please make
sure that you just don't get

703
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:41,480
into a random car of somebody
that says they're an Uber or

704
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,320
Lyft.
Please use the app and make sure

705
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:51,640
that it is an actual driver.
And there is my there is my PSA

706
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:52,520
for the day.
Thank you.

707
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:54,200
Very good.
Valuable.

708
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:59,800
I'd say avoid dark alleys, you
know, that kind of thing.

709
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:01,880
Yeah.
Next question.

710
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,880
Arch cost.
So we were looking back at the

711
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:10,240
resources for teaching tour
prices to sort of get an idea

712
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:15,920
when answering this question.
And it looked like now these are

713
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,360
in pounds.
So I guess it's sort of like in

714
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:24,400
dollars, the same T-shirt 35
lbs, Hoodie 75 lbs, Poster 25

715
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:28,720
lbs.
I guess those are roughly what

716
00:43:28,720 --> 00:43:33,200
they would be in American
dollars 3575. 25 yeah, give or

717
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:34,800
take.
It's our typical.

718
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,720
Yeah.
So I'm certainly expecting 35

719
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,440
minimum.
And these are these are all very

720
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:45,600
normal prices for if you're not
experienced at going to shows,

721
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:49,880
these are all very normal,
typical, yeah prices.

722
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:53,040
For concert merch, and actually
this might have been be a little

723
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:54,840
on the cheaper side.
It's a little lower actually.

724
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,120
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because I'm so just T-shirt a

725
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,660
lot like Green Day and things
are now like around 45 for a

726
00:44:00,660 --> 00:44:01,080
T-shirt.
It's.

727
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,040
Absolutely.
Yeah, the MCR shirts right now

728
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:05,240
are 50.
Yeah.

729
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,320
I mean, there you go.
Yeah.

730
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,120
And the hoodies, of course, are
always going to be more, but,

731
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,200
you know, given the size.
Young blood.

732
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,760
We bought a T-shirt that was 35
so.

733
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:20,520
I'm hopeful that they have a few
lower priced items for folks,

734
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:25,320
you know, as an option, patches
or stickers or key chains, you

735
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,120
know, something like that.
But we just obviously, yeah,

736
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:32,120
maybe we just don't know.
We could just guess like a lot

737
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,960
of this, unfortunately, but I
hope it's an educated guess or

738
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,240
you're finding it to be.
I think you will.

739
00:44:37,240 --> 00:44:39,560
Next up.
Oh, this is perfect for a mother

740
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,400
hen.
I think I already answered some

741
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:46,880
of this general safety.
Well, you all got my spiel about

742
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:51,080
dark parking garages and
alleyways and that sort of

743
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,080
thing.
So you guys have anything else

744
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,920
to add as far as safety?
I know there's surely more, but.

745
00:44:57,240 --> 00:45:03,280
Walk with crowds.
If there's a parking garage, as

746
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:09,640
you say, make sure you follow.
Yes, make sure you you follow in

747
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:11,520
with somebody else who's been at
the gig.

748
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,400
Just be a bit safe.
Yeah, and in as far as in the

749
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:20,800
gig, I was just thinking, I know
a big concern is splitting up if

750
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,360
one has to run to the bathroom
or one goes to get merch, you

751
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:24,920
know, like that's always the
thing, right?

752
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,440
If you get separated from each
other, how to find each other

753
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,800
again if one person's holding a
spot?

754
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,840
I don't know what to say about
how to be better or safer with

755
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:35,520
that but.
We always have.

756
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:41,960
And when we go, we go shopping
or somewhere new, always have a

757
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,480
spot, right?
So if you get lost, there's a

758
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,600
church in the center or there's
something.

759
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:53,080
If you get lost, we meet there.
When we're leaving a gig, I'll

760
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:57,280
say to my daughter, you get
lost, walk out the door, turn

761
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:00,600
left, take two steps, stop.
I can't find you.

762
00:46:00,720 --> 00:46:04,040
I know that you're going to be
just beyond the door.

763
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,840
Do you know what I mean?
Or I'm going to be just beyond

764
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:11,200
the door.
So we always have a little meet

765
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,480
point, safe point.
It's a good idea.

766
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:15,840
It's sort of try to, you know,
while you're waiting in the

767
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,640
queue or the line, whatever
you'd like to call it, plan for

768
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:19,960
these sort of things.
Well, I'm going to run to the

769
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:23,080
bathroom 1st and I'll or I'll
grab spot or you know, I'll get

770
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:27,000
the merch or after the show lets
out when it gets like a mob of

771
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:30,280
people all exiting, you know,
say we'll meet by that fire

772
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:31,800
hydrant that was out front,
something like that.

773
00:46:32,240 --> 00:46:34,120
Teamwork.
Teamwork makes a dream work.

774
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:39,920
And except Dave.
All the UK have Vipi bloody well

775
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:43,560
hope so.
I think providing it all goes

776
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,920
well in America and the
Americans don't let us down,

777
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:52,360
then I should imagine we will.
Yes, I'm talking to you too.

778
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,280
Yeah, that's very true.
We're very well behaved.

779
00:46:56,400 --> 00:47:00,720
Wasn't it in the UK though that
they swarmed Will at that one

780
00:47:00,720 --> 00:47:01,880
show?
They were like.

781
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:05,840
All up on him, yes.
That looked a little terrifying.

782
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:09,600
That's why I'm hoping this
formal meet and greet will be

783
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,080
safer.
Was that Honest Resources tour?

784
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,520
Yeah.
In London or Manchester,

785
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,520
wherever it was.
Like it was yeah, no.

786
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,840
So hopefully all goes well
because if no, the UK would be

787
00:47:22,240 --> 00:47:25,560
heartbroken if they didn't have
the opportunity to do the meet

788
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,960
and greets as well.
And the other offerings will

789
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:32,640
echo along with the VIP.
So do we think they'll have CDs

790
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:34,360
to buy the gig?
I'm thinking yes.

791
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:35,760
Because this is for the album,
right?

792
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:39,840
Or you don't think they'll have
enough to go around to all

793
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:44,160
those.
I mean was kind of thinking

794
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:50,200
would that be in the VIP match?
I mean, would it kind of expect

795
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:50,920
that?
But.

796
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,840
I would have to charge more I
think for VIP then.

797
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:59,160
Yeah, it's a difficult one
because it's the tour.

798
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,800
For the album, so it sort of
seems like it would make sense

799
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:05,480
to be.
Able to, but I've seen there

800
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:10,400
seems to be a trend lately of
bands having their vinyls at the

801
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:14,080
merch table.
I don't know about CDs.

802
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,800
That's a super good question.
That's true.

803
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,200
I have seen the vinyls and not
CDs for less compazinos.

804
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:25,440
That is possible.
Good question.

805
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,800
Anyone's guess that's we'll find
out in October and when the

806
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,880
first gig happens, OK?
Next question, yeah.

807
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:37,080
Do kid and parent both need VIP?
Great question.

808
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,920
I'm going to say you need to
call the venue.

809
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,400
Yeah, I'm sure it's.
The venue?

810
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,960
Yep, definitely.
I'm sure it varies.

811
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:51,360
And yeah, talk to them.
I am sure that depending on if

812
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,640
there's an age limit or not,
which again, call your venue if

813
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,120
you have any questions at all on
age limits.

814
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:01,240
But Yep, that's definitely a
question for the specific venue

815
00:49:01,240 --> 00:49:05,240
that you are going to.
And I wish we had an answer for

816
00:49:05,240 --> 00:49:08,360
you, but we just don't so.
Not a blanket one, no.

817
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:12,280
Call the venue.
The next one I'll jump to is

818
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:15,080
just a Will Lovejoy Nation be at
any of the shows?

819
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:19,880
We've yes, we all will be.
Yeah, I think we addressed that

820
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:23,800
early on.
So yeah, a Pebble Brain Trust

821
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,480
will be making appearances in
the crowds of these shows and

822
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:27,880
maybe giving out some little
goodies.

823
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:33,200
Yes, that's a very good point.
If you see us, what is it they

824
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,600
got to say to me or you, Dave?
Give us a bloody yeah.

825
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,360
We should have like a big We
should have a T-shirt with our

826
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:43,280
big cartoon Zim character face
on it.

827
00:49:44,240 --> 00:49:49,520
Know who we are, right?
Have a Lovejoy Nation T-shirt

828
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,400
printed ready to go.
It's all ironed.

829
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:54,400
Ironed.
Wow.

830
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:58,160
Yeah, it's all, it's all ironed.
It's all ready to go extra mild,

831
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:07,240
got to look presentable.
How do people find other love

832
00:50:07,240 --> 00:50:11,280
and joyers to have fun with?
Yeah, Dave, I.

833
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:15,240
Can't answer that.
Most of those are teens.

834
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:17,360
Look under a rock.
Yeah, I.

835
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,160
Don't know.
Well, you find them a lot on

836
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,160
social media, right?
And then people are saying what

837
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:23,640
Ben Rich gigs are going to be
at.

838
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:30,200
There's a discord for the tour.
Be quite honest with you when

839
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,880
you're in the line.
Speak to the people next to you.

840
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,760
That's true.
You end up absolutely from near

841
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,440
you.
Spoken to many many a different

842
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:42,120
person in a queue and and
sometimes you end up hanging

843
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:45,440
around with them.
Yeah, and they've all been

844
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,200
lovely in Brooklyn.
We met a lot of people, we

845
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:51,160
walked up and down the line and
it was just fun.

846
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:54,080
Everybody's excited, everybody's
happy, in a good mood and

847
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:56,840
talking about their favorite
songs, playing the songs, you

848
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,760
know, it's a good time, so don't
worry about that too much.

849
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:01,120
You're all there for the same
reason.

850
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:04,200
So yeah, guess at the gig or on
the line is the best place.

851
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,280
OK.
Next question, Will there be

852
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,320
support acts?
Who knows we.

853
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,240
Think so.
Almost certainly.

854
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:15,800
I think so.
I think it'd be really weird if

855
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:16,960
there wasn't.
Yeah.

856
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:21,480
I think they like to help out
the these new bands and

857
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,600
musicians, artists.
That's what I found.

858
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:27,640
Tommy Reagan, who I love a lot
of his songs and follow him on

859
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:29,240
Instagram now.
Yeah.

860
00:51:29,240 --> 00:51:32,880
So I think it's likely even if
they have the VIP meet and greet

861
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:36,520
and all happening, Angie, you
thought that that still might be

862
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:40,040
a good possibility anyway.
Oh, for sure, yeah.

863
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:44,040
The support act shouldn't have
any effect on VIP.

864
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:48,880
I mean, no, that there will be
VIP and support.

865
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:53,000
And I don't know if somebody had
asked this, but I think we had

866
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:56,560
spoke about it earlier.
I I would say probably like 0%

867
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:58,760
chance that the VIP is going to
happen after the show.

868
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:02,640
It'll be before the show.
I'll eat my socks if it's after

869
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:05,040
the show.
So that's how confident I am.

870
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:13,160
Lastly, and this is a big
important one that I know Angie

871
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:16,360
will have a lot to say concert
etiquette, especially Lovejoy

872
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,520
gig etiquette.
Do you want to be the mother hen

873
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:23,120
or should I say it first you?
Know what, you go ahead, you go

874
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:26,320
ahead and say whatever you would
like to say and then and then

875
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:31,880
Dave and I could fill in.
OK, singing along with the

876
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:33,640
songs.
Everyone does.

877
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,960
You can can't contain yourself.
There's a special chance that

878
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,640
the fans know that they sing
along with the songs.

879
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:43,200
Great.
When a member of the band would

880
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,520
like to speak and address the
crowd, could you do us all a

881
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,480
favor?
We want to hear what they have

882
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:53,280
to say, and we can't do it if
you're in our ear yelling out

883
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:58,560
random silly things to Wilbur
just because you can't contain

884
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:00,400
yourself because he's 3 feet in
front of you.

885
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:04,200
We want to hear him speak, not
you.

886
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:07,120
No offense.
We paid the money to hear his

887
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:10,040
words, or Joe's or Mark,
whoever's choosing to speak at

888
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,240
that time and has the floor, if
you will.

889
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:13,960
Thank you.
Good night.

890
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:18,200
Yes, let them speak.
If you are trying to get their

891
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:22,640
attention because you have a
sign that you want to show them

892
00:53:22,720 --> 00:53:26,600
or something that you want to
give them, wait until after the

893
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:35,240
show is done and take your gift
and if you can place it on the

894
00:53:35,240 --> 00:53:41,520
stage, have it passed up to the
stage or sometimes at the merch

895
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:44,960
table there will be a gift box.
Please do not under any

896
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:50,480
circumstances throw a bracelet
or a plushie or what not onto

897
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:54,120
the stage.
It is dangerous for the artist.

898
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:59,480
I know other artists I've seen
they've they've gotten, you

899
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,040
know, nailed in the eye with a
bracelet and they've had to stop

900
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:05,160
the show because I imagine that
really hurts or, you know,

901
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,200
they'll they'll trip over
something and fall.

902
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:09,360
It's just, it's, it's really
unsafe.

903
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:14,400
So just wait, just wait until
after the show and try and get

904
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,360
it up to the stage.
And if you have a sign, like

905
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:21,480
signs are great, signs are fine,
but please don't hold it up the

906
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:24,160
whole time because then you're
blocking the view of people that

907
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,960
can do, you know, people that
would like to see behind you.

908
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,640
A good rule of thumb is to hold
it about, you know, chest

909
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:32,800
height.
They'll still be able to see it.

910
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:36,040
And don't hold it up all the
time #1 your arms are going to

911
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:39,680
get really sore and #2 there are
still people, you know,

912
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,080
depending on how big it is.
And I don't think most of these

913
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:45,040
places allow very big signs.
That's another thing if you're

914
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:49,480
thinking about bringing a sign,
please verify with your venue so

915
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,160
you're not, you know,
disappointed when you get there

916
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:55,160
and you're not able to bring
your sign in that you spent a

917
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:59,440
bunch of time on.
Again, like Leslie said, please

918
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:01,880
don't scream their name
constantly.

919
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:06,800
I kind of feel like they're
almost trained or are are really

920
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,840
good at tuning out that kind of
stuff.

921
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,000
I have, we've been to a lot of
shows.

922
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:15,880
We've seen a lot of people
screaming insert random band

923
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:21,560
members name and I've never ever
once seen them respond to it.

924
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:25,240
I don't know if you guys have,
but I've never seen them respond

925
00:55:25,240 --> 00:55:26,880
to it.
I think they just tuned it out

926
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,480
on purpose.
They also have those heavy duty

927
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:32,960
earplug things in their ears
where they're listening to, you

928
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:37,080
know, production staff, the back
line or whatever if need be.

929
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,720
Band members very good
protecting your.

930
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:42,880
It's also acting as ear
protection, so they can't even

931
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,120
necessarily hear you what you're
saying.

932
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,640
So yeah.
And when you were talking about

933
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,240
being allowed to bring a sign in
the venue, it made me think

934
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:53,520
another thing for folks to look
up on these websites of the

935
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:57,960
venues is what's allowed size
eyes for bags because they're

936
00:55:58,080 --> 00:55:59,840
guilty.
You might end up having your bag

937
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,040
taken away.
Or if you have a camera that

938
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:05,640
looks too professional, be sure
to check what their policies are

939
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:09,200
for what you're allowed to bring
into the venue so you don't have

940
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:13,480
things taken away.
Most UK stuff they're happy with

941
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:19,280
a smallish handbag.
No rucksacks, no rucksacks

942
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:22,920
whatsoever, Backpacks, anything
that goes on your back.

943
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:27,520
Just a small bag, clutch bag,
whatever your venue.

944
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:29,960
Is a little slightly different.
They'll have the dimensions,

945
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:31,880
they'll say if they want a clear
bag or not.

946
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,280
A point and shoot camera may be
fine, but if it's camera that

947
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:39,000
has removable lenses that that
may, they may hold that back at

948
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,680
the table and not let you in the
venue space with it.

949
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:45,880
So just something to keep in
mind as far as etiquette.

950
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:48,560
Yeah, if you bump into someone
like tried, if you can try to

951
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:53,680
make that moment of like, oh,
sorry, but you're, it's expected

952
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:55,480
that there's going to be like
some bumping around and

953
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:58,320
everyone's just there having a
good time and dancing along.

954
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:01,480
And that's just if you're in the
in the general mission crowd,

955
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,240
that's just going to go along
with the territory to be honest.

956
00:57:04,240 --> 00:57:08,560
Again, any issues you may have
as far as like if you're a tend

957
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:12,080
to be an anxious person or if
you have mobility issues, these

958
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,560
are things to address at each
individual venue.

959
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:17,720
They may have places you can go
that you might be more

960
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:20,960
comfortable in, or you might
feel safer in case you have a

961
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:22,800
cane or crutches or anything
like that.

962
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:26,520
Going back to Angie, you said
about singing.

963
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:31,680
Personally can't bear people
singing to my favorite song

964
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:36,240
because you want to listen to
them singing it to.

965
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,640
Me.
I know I'm the one that said it,

966
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,080
I think, but yeah.
That's something I have to put

967
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:46,200
up with I.
Think this just happens, but if

968
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:50,520
you are recording it is nicer.
If you're not screaming lyrics

969
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:52,600
and recording it, then you share
that video and then you really

970
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:54,880
later on like, Oh my God, you
just hear me the whole time.

971
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:59,080
Yeah, that happens then anyway.
Dave, you don't ever want to

972
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:02,480
stand by me at a show.
Yeah, no, that would not be

973
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:05,840
good.
I was going to say I watched

974
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:09,000
some of your videos you
recorded, but I watched some of

975
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:15,080
your videos that your assistant
videographer recorded and I

976
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:17,760
believe I said to you, is that
you singing Ange?

977
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:23,040
Yes, was the answer.
There might have been one

978
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:26,920
particular song where I was
exceptionally loud and

979
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:32,480
obnoxious, which, yeah.
Free, fun, clear mind of the

980
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:35,160
outside world and in all your
problems, just let go.

981
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:37,400
Just let go and enjoy and be in
the moment.

982
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:41,520
To escape reality.
Exactly.

983
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:44,560
Enjoy it.
All right, chickens, I think

984
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:47,600
this has been, I hope to you
all, a valuable episode.

985
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:51,000
Very informative as well as fun
to listen to.

986
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:55,680
Next time we'll be discussing.
Who knows at this point,

987
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:58,080
whatever Lovejoy decides to
throw at us because they like

988
00:58:58,080 --> 00:58:59,320
tour.
Surprisingly, Tour.

989
00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:01,920
Please.
Hopefully we'll be discussing

990
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:04,320
the UK tour or another single
that's been dropped.

991
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:10,240
Oh good, I must ask you, what
song will be the next one?

992
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:19,440
Loving paying display?
Will it be paying display?

993
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:23,040
I think so.
They showed clips of those music

994
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:24,600
video.
I believe that's what we were

995
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:27,120
looking at.
Or will it be perfect blue I?

996
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:30,400
Think it'll be paying display?
Because if it hasn't been

997
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:33,360
foxholes yet, then paying
display.

998
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:35,760
So we're all going for paying
display.

999
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:39,000
Check back here next time.
Find the answer.

1000
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:40,760
Yeah, we'll find out who.
You're right.

1001
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:44,560
Well, thank again.
Thank you all for listening to

1002
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:45,840
us.
Hope you enjoyed.

1003
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:47,640
We look forward to hearing from
you always.

1004
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:50,360
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1005
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:53,480
Any links pertaining that we've
discussed in this episode will

1006
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:57,400
be up in the episode description
or on our blog on the website.

1007
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:00,080
Thanks again and see you next
time.

1008
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:03,040
Bye guys, bye bye.
See you later.