19. Big Theories & Speculation for Lovejoy's Coming Soons!

0:00 Is this the theory? This is the potential. It's kind of outlandish. All I got told was I have a theory I'm saving it for the pod. Mm hmm, era is a big word, right? Era. Yep. It's not just like new things, something happening chain, like it's a major, often centuries long division of time marked by a new distinct order of things. New era doesn't just sound like a deluxe version of an album because it wouldn't be new, because that's not totally new. And then if you're talking about old songs or something, again, that's not like new.

0:46 That's like nostalgic. What if now this is crazy. What if Lovejoy is Hello, we are Lovejoy and you are listening to the Lovejoy podcast. Hello, Hello, love and. Joyers facts are coming. Hello and welcome back everyone. Hi, Angie. Hi, Dave. Well, hello. Howdy. Is there? Well, let's get going. I mean, we, we were hoping to have really exciting big news to talk about today, but like always, we'll make any little crumb into a freaking pie. And so that's what we're going to do today. On today's episode, we'll be discussing Lovejoy's upcoming European Tour dates, Wilbur's ever evolving Instagram profile emojis, Lovejoy's latest Tik Toks, and of course their cryptic Instagram story.

1:49 And as always, any other little Nuggets we come up with along the way. So shall we get started with the the European dates? Because that, that's the one big exciting thing. I mean the biggest exciting thing we've had in a while. Yeah. We've kind of a little bit, we're a little bit delayed on that because they've been out for a little bit. But I think I honestly thought we were going to get some more, but Poland and Turkey, fantastic, absolutely fantastic. Warsaw sold out. Yes, yeah. Yeah, I can see why. I was looking for like information about each venue because I thought that would be interesting and I know there was discussion about age rules for the different venues. Yes, one of which has changed since the initial announcement, which is awesome.

2:40 I think a lot of kids and maybe their parents made a big push for the age allowance to be modified for Turkey so that kids younger than 18 could attend with their parents instead of it just being an 18 and up role. Good job to those kids. That's absolutely amazing that they got that changed. Yeah, that was impressive. Yeah, I I love the way that, OK, not so much of AAA huge campaign, but there were people that were hounding and hounding Reddit, Instagram.

3:23 They made beautiful graphics like. Absolutely. I want to know what program they used. They did an amazing job, very talented. Really, sort of really pleased with the outcome because the management have clearly looked at it oh and got onto it so. Yeah, that's their base. They need to be able to have those younger folks there. Sure. Yeah, what a great outcome for for everyone. Everyone involved, really. Yeah, yeah. 100% good job. Great. Yeah, we may need you in the future for other things. So yeah, right. Don't be a stranger, all right? To start off this one very simple, very small tour, Lovejoy will be playing in Poznan, Poland on April 22nd, our very own Dave's birthday at the Tama Club, which is the largest club and concert venue in Poznan and the capacity is about 900 people. They're known for friendly staff and unreal sound. So sounds like a great place to start off. All right.

4:30 And then the next night, they'll be playing at the Proxima Club in Warsaw. And that, we've figured out, is sold out. It's affiliated with the University of Warsaw. It's on campus, and they have an intimate, energetic atmosphere. But some people complain about the poor ventilation. I saw that come up a lot. Oh bless. Where? Did deodorant? I saw that in a lot of reviews, but it remains a staple of the local music scene and the capacity is 1000. Then they head over to Turkey a few days later, April 26th at Parabu Art in Istanbul. It's a brand new, highly regarded culture and arts venue.

5:13 It actually just launched in December 2, 2025. Hello. Oh, so that is quite new and fresh, isn't it? Yeah. That's yeah, that's good. There's been initial feedback for impressive and modern sound lighting video systems. So now, yeah, the ages 14 to 18 May attend the event with their parents or accompanied by an adult who has been granted A notary approved attorney. Sounds very fancy, but it had been 18 plus. And as we said, the kids or the families of the fans have pulled this off. They've spoken out and said please adjust the age requirements. And it's worked.

5:57 So that is awesome. And that's that's it. That's all we know about these three dates so far for 2026. So pleased Warsaw sold out really, and hopefully Poznan is very close to as well. And hopefully, now that they've changed, Turkey may become a more bit more fuller. Yeah, and it sounds like an awesome place to play. I'm excited to like see the pictures and hear about how that went and it goes. Absolutely. Really looking forward to, I know we all see HQ and all that, they bring out American pictures like yourself, but it's going to be good to see something new, you know?

6:42 Yeah, I'm excited looking. Forward to that. I'm excited for everybody over there, especially the fans in Turkey since Lovejoy's not played there before, so if I lived there I'd be over the moon. That's fantastic, really exciting for everybody. And they have played Poland before and those fans have been begging for them to come back. And. And do you have some information you've dug up from your wiki? Yeah, I do. Their experiences there in the past. Lovejoy, Poland fans seem to be pretty. I mean, they're hardcore. Wake up and it's over was #1 on Poland iTunes overall? Not just rock, not just alternative music, like overall pretty cool. And Call Me What You Like was #1 on Poland iTunes also a couple weeks after it's released.

7:29 So Poland clearly loves Lovejoy. Lovejoy's played Poland before the first one was in. And I'm sorry, I'm this, I'm probably butchering this name. Gdans. OK. Yeah. It's on the Insloff tour. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So on the Insloff tour, they hit Poland a couple of times, and it was in April. At first they only had the Warsaw Shoal, but due to high demand they added Gdans after that and Gdansk was actually the live debut of Warsaw. They played Warsaw as a second encore that night. They're going, they're going to play Warsaw in Warsaw, aren't they? Oh yeah.

8:10 Oh yeah, A. Standard thing. Do you think they'll play in Poznan? Maybe. Is there a rivalry there? Is there a rivalry there? I keep hearing things like. Yeah, I believe there is, but there's no Rosary Music East. Coast. West Coast. Would that not make its way across the bond? Yes, yes, yes. Oh, you can't like East Coast if you like West Coast. Oh gosh. I was going to use football but because we have Southampton and Portsmouth who don't like each other, but you know, if you want to use East Coast, West Coast. Well, you mentioned music, you know, rivalries and music and it just first thing came to mind so. Oh my gosh.

9:09 Yeah, you. Maybe they'll play Warsaw and pause. And maybe. Yeah, it's no, it's, I'm so glad that they are playing now. I had a message and helped a fellow Polish fan out. Yeah. It was a bit strange though, wasn't it, because VIP tickets were supposed to go live at 10 AM Polish time, but people were picking them up from 2:00 AM onwards. That happened in Philly here. Remember, they went on sale hours earlier. Yeah, yeah. You felt a bit gutted for the people that actually waited. But I think it was about 8:00 AM my time. Poland's an hour ahead.

9:50 And I went onto the website and there they were because I was talking to this Polish person, helping them out. And there they were. And I'm like, just buy them now. Just buy them now. And I think 10 minutes later they got back to me. And it's like I'm going. To see. Lovejoy. I'm glad they reached out to you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know whether that happened for for all the gigs, you know, this massive, huge European Tour they're doing. I know there's so many dates to Trek. I don't know.

10:35 Back to the other dates that Lovejoy played in Poland. Yes. Yes. Yeah, sorry. Nah, you're OK You you go on Dave. That was good. So like I said, they played in Warsaw and I thought this was kind of cool. Did you guys catch when they were on Stephen Colbert's YouTube channel? It was oh gosh, what was it called? Stephen Colbert Late Show me music. They they filmed that while they're in Warsaw. They played Call Me What it Like and then a few months after that, in June, they played at a festival in Poland. Yes, they've been to Poland three times and I guess now it'll be 5 S Poland. You're lucky.

11:21 I love that they're hitting these other countries, and I do too, especially as I know we've been fortunate here to have them in America so often. But there's so many fans all over the world. Clearly we have like 54 countries or something that listen to this podcast which blows my mind. Hello all you other countries. Bond School. Hola. Good in Tarak. V Gates. I don't know anymore. So that's all you get. Hello. Yeah, I hope they get to Brazil, Latin America. I mean, there's so many people begging for them to come to the where they are. Yeah, absolutely. I'm tempted to beg myself, but who knows? They'll get to the UK for sure.

12:10 It's in the works, I'm sure they're. Filling that calendar up, I'm sure, as we speak. Oh yeah, no doubt. I think it's going to end up being a busy year for them. I'm hoping it's going to be a busy year for them because they're clearly rehearsing, so hopefully April is the start of it, or if not, before. And I know there's people that have been wondering if there's going to be more European Tour dates. The three of us had talked about this offline a few weeks ago. I, I, I think it's possible that they could fill in some more dates around those Poland and Turkey shows.

12:52 When they did the Insalaf tour in 2023, they kind of, they kind of bounced all over the place. Within a month. It was like they went from Ireland to Scotland and then back to England and then they went to Poland, Germany, and then they went to Netherland, France, Belgium. It was kind of like all over the place. So who knows what they got cooking? But I mean, now that they have a full length, full real deal album with Warner, like there's got to be similar pattern of of touring happening with that. Oh, for sure, now's the time. For sure. And I feel like Warner's kind of got their back, you know, at least somewhat. So that's nice. I'm just wondering whether Poland is the star, Poland and Turkey or whether they will do somewhere on the way. I'm not going to just say the UK because you never, you know, there's a lot of places you can go to from the UK to Poland. Yeah, I don't think there's going to be anything beforehand because they'd have to have it already announced in ticket sales and all that.

14:00 Yeah, it's too, it's getting too close now. We're like a month away from it. With their recent posts incoming, we've had a few of those. You know, I honestly thought there was going to be something else by now. I know at the beginning of the show and you sort of said, you know, we were hoping for it, but I really was we we had a a week or so of basically saying incoming and then nothing on this second week. So and all all we get is the website locked.

14:41 Right. So just to clarify for people that maybe have missed some of the things that are maybe not as obsessed with things as we are keeping an eye every single day on this stuff by the hour. Currently on the website for UK and US, the store is shut down. Like it's just a blank and it says coming soon at the top. So it's this has happened before. This has happened when they've shut it down to add a merch drop or when the album was being released and they were going to have the album available for sale. So yeah, so you had our eye on that to see it. When and if anything changes, I presume we'll have some marketing posts advertising, you know an upcoming merch shop or pre sales for an album or singles prior to it actually being live.

15:32 They've done that before where they had little teaser commercials showing the merch. So but we are still looking daily just to be sure that we're not missing anything. And as far as incoming goes, yeah. In a recent Instagram post by Lovejoy, they posted some photos and they wrote in the caption incoming. So it just made you think, hmm, what does that mean? And yeah, no, it just, you know, we read into these like one word captions because we're just, you know, chomping at the bit, as I say, too often on here and as you were, Ange. You know what? I'm starting to to feel like there's something bigger. And like I said, we read so much into every word. But this Instagram post from a few days ago with Joe at the whiteboard it, it says new era incoming. And I'm starting to feel like the North American OST tour was just like a warm up or a teaser for something. If they're making it and maybe I'm overreacting, which I very well could be, I feel like there's something big coming down the pipeline.

16:46 I don't know. What do you think? When you said that to me the other day, I was thinking, you know what, maybe it was kind of a focus group this tour. They scattered themselves all over America and Canada. And maybe it was just to sort of get a read on how the sales would be audience, you know, excitement levels and just to get the the boys out there with this new album. And like, really just, yeah, like you said, a warm up, but also kind of a focus group maybe for the Warner Records as they're new to Lovejoy and they wanted to feel it out and see what the reception would be. But I do think something bigger is on the. Horizon because.

17:30 An album is expensive and it's been a long time coming. Yeah, so. Yeah, that's it. That, no, that is interesting. I get that. I mean to coincide because we've spoken about visas, if their visas were running out, it made sense to do USA and it made sense makes or makes sense. Practical sense, correct? Yes. To do what you've just said, to get, you know, we can prove to you that we are good. You prove to us we're good. It's the whole yeah, interesting. Yeah, and I'll talk about this a little bit later, but I totally fell down the rabbit hole on this whiteboard, but yes, God. Bless you because I was like daunted by the task because the writing was too blurry or dark to see. It basically was a post on Instagram, a Lovejoy story, Joe at a whiteboard erasing a portion of the writing on the whiteboard, some writing still visible and in the bottom corner, it said New Era.

18:42 New era? What incoming? Incoming again. Yeah, new era incoming. OK. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it could be that this is like some old bored from when they were maybe planning out the album or whatever, and now it's just Joe erasing all of that. But then I thought, well, what if it's something new so. And I know we had talked offline about trying to read some of the words on it and. There wasn't. There wasn't anything that you could make out, not too much that that would give anything away. No, not really.

19:28 I mean, they're towards the, towards the left, there was a column that looked like it started and we thought it said Will. It starts with AW, it looks like it might say Will. And then I feel like the other ones, like they're, I, I think there's a lead in there and there's two outros and a lyric. I don't know what to make of that, but I'm almost positive that's what those say. And then and then one thing that said too, too much energy. Yeah, yeah, to the left of that, to the left of that, I think it was the first column, there's something that says drums and then like Leslie said, it's there's something that's kind of cut off, but you can see verse and it looks like it says too much energy. And then a couple down again.

20:16 There is something that says. Lead. Yeah. If you go over to the other side of the board, Leslie and I both agreed that it looked like it said REDUX going down. Now that can mean a couple of things. Leslie, what were you thinking when you saw? That I was thinking maybe a deluxe version of the album so they're the next iteration of the album. Could be the redo one simple trick spelled RUREDUX but. You know, no, no, it's just REDO, redo. No, this is different, right?

20:58 No, it was. It's written REDUX. But I googled and there's some sort of studio tool like computer tool called but by that same name and it's used in. I think it's used in recording. So then I was like. Oh wait, wait. It means though it's from the Latin reducer to bring back it means brought back or restored. Hello. Scrap. Scrap. Because Wilbur. Said somewhere on Reddit or was in AQ and a some freaking where he said you guys have been wanting the scrap songs and I we had, we came up with a plan for that and we think you'll be happy with it. So I've always thought they're going to make like a scrapped album.

21:50 Maybe it's called Bringing It Back because these are songs that haven't been played anywhere. For years. And underneath that column in those rows, there's no's. There's at least one yes. There's some other word that I can't make out. I don't know it. Do you know what I've, yeah, I've totally missed that section. I have not put, I've not been down any rabbit holes and I've totally missed that section. So this is all new to new and exciting to me. Yeah, this was my Friday night. I don't have anything else to do. Well, I think they probably were talking about all the songs that could be on their screensaver. I mean, character syndrome, Coronado, all those things, and probably a yes.

22:38 No. Well, Snake was like was supposed to be, we think one simple trick thing, right? Yes. OK. This was probably the most interesting thing for me. I'm sorry I am going off on a tangent. The very right hand columns. One says key and one says BPM for beats per minute. So I went to Google and found the key and the BPM for every single Lovejoy song. What? I didn't have as much luck as I thought I would. There's one that I figured out if Google is right. OK, let's make a big caveat there. If Google is right with the key in the BPMF 148 is common touch. There are a lot of them that are hidden behind Joe. There were about 4-5 that I had no idea what they were and then the ones that are partially obscured. There are some songs that they possibly could be, and like I said, I could be totally going down the complete wrong pathway with this, but Death Box, Monochrome, they were all from OST, Foxholes, Fatal Scoundrels, Baptism, those are all possibilities for some of those you don't. OK, there are 13 lines.

24:06 Yeah, 13 lines. Yes, so we know that the original was supposed to have 13 on it. That's. Right, I forgot. About that. Sorry, I've got it in front of me. We'll put it up on the screen. It'll have already been up on the screen. Like I say, I haven't been down that rabbit hole, but I'm just listening to you here, looking at this. Yeah, there's 13 lines. The original was 13, so we all assume wasted summers coming back. So that leaves two others. What I I did try to find the info for Wasted Summer and it was, there was a few differing, differing things that I found, but I didn't find anything on there that seemed to match that. But I don't know, like I said, it could be wrong if that's what even this is.

24:59 I mean, if by some stroke of luck, any of the guys are listening to this, are probably laughing their asses off because this has nothing to do with anything. But I thought it was interesting. I mean, you know what else? What else are you gonna do? The thing is, they probably laugh at all of us at times, and I'm not just meaning US three, the Redditors, Instagram, they, they laugh at us all. Keeps us keeps them entertained in the these down times, right? But this perhaps? They keep us entertained with their little. Yeah, Yeah. I really didn't look into this new era. And like I say, just looking at it, who knows? There might be more.

25:44 Read afterwards. They might be more than meets the eye. And don't even bother with that version. You need Angie's like doctored up high contrast, you know? I ran it through. I ran it through an image enhancer. I'll send it to you, Dave. It helped. It helps some. Got to get the CIA on. This. Why didn't you just do that in the 1st place? Just send it to me. Yes, please send it through. I will. Yeah. I will. Yeah. And so when Angie and I were talking the other day, oh, because we had a little Zoom meet. It came up. Is this the theory? This is the potential. It's kind of outlandish. All I got told was I have a theory I'm saving it for the pod cube drum roll.

26:37 Era is a big word, right? Era. Yep. Let's see what Google says that means, because I feel like that's a big word. It's not just like new things, something happening. It's a major, often centuries long division of time marked by a new, distinct order of things. OK, New era doesn't just sound like a deluxe version of an album because it wouldn't be new, because that's not totally new. And then if you're talking about old songs or something, again, that's not like new technically, like main character syndrome Coronado. It's like old era that's like nostalgic. What if now this is crazy?

27:28 What if Lovejoy is changing its name? Dave, did you freeze change? Its name to an entirely new name. Or instead of just instead of being full on Lovejoy, it's LVJY since they use that all the time everywhere. Sort of like Prince changing to the symbol. Yeah, that didn't work either. But not like MCR, everybody knows My Chemical Romance, NIN, 9 Inch Nails. It would give them an opportunity to break away from a name that in for some has a stigma attached to it a little bit.

28:13 Not saying that it's just LVJY. They could change name to friggin like Anvil. I don't know but New Era almost sounds like a big enough thing that it would be like a name change. Another theory is like how this is wild. What if they've changed their name? What if the name is changing? We don't know about it yet and we've been scrutinizing all these music festival line UPS looking for Lovejoy and it's some other name and they've been on all these lineups and we didn't even freaking know it. I don't think it's impossible. I think it's within the realm of possibility.

28:55 Is it out there? Yeah. Is it possible also? Yeah. I know it sounds crazy, but there's too many. Lovejoys. There's other Lovejoys. There's even another Lovejoy from Brighton that I was seeing posts on Instagram about them performing in Brighton. But it was a Lovejoy that's been around for like 15 years. So it's not our love. And it like Angie mentioned the other night, Lovejoy is sort of like the antithesis of what their music is, love and joy. But I may be that may be intentional obviously like sort of like an oxymoron or something. I don't know if that's right. We're. Yeah. I mean, it's not like they're going to change their name to sad hate or anything like that. But you're right.

29:40 I mean, it's hard for us to think of them as being anything else, but I think you have to kind of admit a little bit that the direction that they seem to be going in the name kind of doesn't jive with their music, with their sound as much as it may be used to. And you know, I was thinking about this since you brought this up to me. Actually, I was thinking about it a lot, 'cause I'm like, Oh my gosh, what if. And I thought of, I thought of a band, there used to be a band called Joy Division.

30:21 I think it was like late 70s, early 80s. And yeah, yeah, yeah. They changed their name to New Order after their after their vocalist died. So, I mean, it's not impossible. And they had made, if I'm not incorrect, they had made albums under the name Joy Division. Yeah, certainly did. Yeah, OK. I I appreciate they change their name because of the death. Isn't Joy Division like on Wilbur's playlist too? Like he knows them or some likes them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so it's on this right, which fit if. You're an If you're an indicator, you know exactly. Didn't.

31:07 Who, who? Both are and. What about Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young? Crosby, Stills, Nash, and then who else? Jefferson Starship? Jefferson Airplane, Right? They're the same. Didn't they change? Oh yeah, and then. I asked my daughter if she knew of bands that have changed, and she's like, yeah, The Beatles, they were the Quarrymen. Yeah, but that was like their first couple of gigs. That's not, I know, different to sort of Lovejoy doing their. First, what the heck does new era mean? That has to be something new, not just like regurgitating old stuff or a album. A new re release of OST with a couple extra songs, right?

31:51 I think it's. Unless they really didn't think hard enough about putting the word error on there. Just picked a word. Yeah, maybe. I think it's a wildly fascinating theory, I really do. I mean, they should give me a heads up. I'm I'm, I'm. I've got no clue what to say about that Lovejoy changing their name and. Then I'd have to. We'd have to change our name, right? Dang, good thing I use LVJY everywhere in case they use that still, yeah. But I mean, they're kind of in a situation. Where it wouldn't. Be the craziest idea.

32:33 They're still trying to like Slough off like the icky stuff, you know, And I mean, things are going a lot better than they they were and things are looking up. But it may be also Warner records suggesting it as well. Maybe they've done focus groups or like I said, this tour has been a mini focus group and maybe they feel like they need to just like evolve. Warner Records. If you're going to do focus groups, there's the three of us here. Right. We're going, yeah, we're totally like the age demographic for. Love enjoyers, music is for everyone. I know. We know that, and we know quite a lot of adults Lovejoy changing their name.

33:19 You've just blown me away, you completely. You didn't see that one coming, huh? I never saw that one coming. I didn't see that one coming when I got on the Zoom with Angie until you were just chatting, chatting, chatting and then woo. I no, I never saw that coming. I totally understand. New era, OK, we're released the album that was said we're going to do blah blah blah under Lovejoy, then we're going to re release the album under a different name. With extended, we're we're going to re release the extended album under a different name. I can't, I don't know whether that's going to happen. I can't see that happening.

34:07 My brain's telling me no. This is where I think we need Vinny on. If this does, especially if this does happen, I would love to talk to Vinny about this kind of stuff. You know, I totally understand Joy Division, New Order. They've, they've swapped lead singers, they're bringing it in. Still the same kind of band. Yeah. But changing see when you when you were on about Joy Division, I'm thinking what is we're leaving is what what, what, what? There's no this band doesn't exist without him, Margaret. I get that, but it's mental. I can't comprehend what you've just kind of my little brain's going.

34:57 Well, it's Leslie. Said a lot of people. Cool. Leslie said it was out there, but she said it was out there. It's her fault wherever you are pointing. To I'm in the middle on my screen, it's like Brady Bunch. Leslie, you did say it was out there. You did say it was crazy. Yeah. It's a little. It's it's a little it's, it's all of that. But I don't think it's a 0% possibility. I mean it. Yeah. You know, Yeah, it's yeah. And I think that's where I think that's where you're coming from too, right, Leslie? Like you're not like full on expecting it, but you're saying it could be a possibility. I just feel like era means like a big change to something new. Yeah, I do too.

35:49 And that's a huge word. The things we've been talking about happening are not new things, they're just enhanced things or nostalgic things, which it would definitely not be new. Yeah, it's it is definitely not impossible. All right, well, that brings us to Wilbur's emojis in his Instagram profile bio. I think we've talked maybe about where they were last time. I don't remember. So it was a hedgehog initially. Let's just recap hedgehog initially, then two hedgehogs. People are like, Oh my God, girlfriend, right? Or they met or it was another album or something.

36:32 Maybe another Wilbur album or another Lovejoy album. Then it there was an egg and they're like, Oh my God, he's pregnant. Or maybe the egg is the new album. And then then there's a fire with the egg. And then there was a frying pan with an egg cooking on it. Then what did we have after that one hedgehog? I don't even know. And then a, was that when we had the the police car and the police light and an arrow pointing at the single singular hedgehog. And now we have a hedgehog with like some sort of pistol pointing at it in a police car.

37:19 So people are getting worried. Like, does this means, well, that Dave, you had said that, right? Like you thought something maybe went wrong? Yeah. Yeah, I initially thought it was and Ash style tease. You know how Ash put his little emojis out and all that lot. So I thought great, awesome. So you know, oh, they're cooking something great. Yeah, wonderful. Yeah. Oh, there was a plate in a fork, and there's a plate in the fork and knife. That's right after the. Cooking the cooking part after cooking the egg. Yeah, so I originally thought, great, they're cooking something, something's going to be released.

38:04 Something is going to be released, Not sure what. And then not this one, but the last one with the arrow. Something's gone wrong. Something's going to be. Pushed. Yeah, it's like emergency. Yeah. Because that kind of for me that coincided with we've had incoming, incoming and then nothing. Yeah. And then Friday it was new era. Yeah. Does this all correspond? Or is he just playing with us now because he knows we're really paying attention to his silly bio? Yeah.

38:47 And then the last one came through and you're like, what do you make of this? And I'm like, I'm too tired. My brain's given up. I know. Honestly and. So that's what I initially thought and that's it was it was getting me excited and all this and thinking great. What with the the Instagrams and his, something's happening and now I've got no bloody clue. I know I. Don't like? Yeah. I'm lost. They could change their name. That's. What it? Yeah, I'm lost too.

39:28 Maybe he's like tired of this whole freaking hedgehog thing he got caught in, so he's like killing it off just to like be done with it because he's tired of it. Honestly no clue, don't care, can't be bothered, no. Yeah, it. Hurts my brain. Yeah, I think. He's, I mean, it's Will's way. Remember, he put gasping in his profile. Everybody's like, what does that mean? Does the shooting the police shot the hedgehog is that corresponds with the new era? Oh, killing the old era, killing the old band name. Hey, what's that line in Oh, is it glass chalet? Something about change?

40:18 Something about kill it dead? Change my name in Glass Chalet? I don't know. Anyway, it's just what that reminded me of. Oh oh. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, I can't think of the lyric. Wait a minute, you just gave me a thought, Dave, you had come up with this and we didn't cover, we didn't address it. April 3rd is the six month anniversary of the album and we speculated for a while that maybe something big will be announced or happened on that day and you made the connection that not only is it the 6th month anniversary, what else is April 3rd? It's Good Friday, which would be the resurrection or close to the resurrection of Rob. Good Friday is a good band name.

41:11 There you go. Maybe that's going to be. Yeah, yeah, they got it all planned out because. It didn't click. It didn't click that. You know, we've all you've spoken about. Oh, it's April the 3rd, and April the 3rd is Good Friday. Or it's going to be called resurrection. Hold on a minute. They all sound like they could be something. So that six months isn't Good Friday when Jesus died. Angie knows better than I. Yes, because it's like the opposite. It sounds like it shouldn't be good. Yeah, right, right. Yeah, It's when Jesus died.

41:53 And then Easter Sunday is when he rose from the dead, correct, This goes, oh I hate rabbit holes. This goes with Leslie's theory now, doesn't it? I don't. I could see the wheels in your head, David. You've got the album for six months. Bang, Good Friday, No More Easter Sunday. Welcome to the White Rabbit or whatever you want to call yourself. Scan. And it's, yeah, it was one simple trick. Then it's going to be a whole thing. I hate you folks. You're welcome. The whole thing with Rob.

42:37 That's that's going to be it. Now we're going to finish recording and I'm just going to sit there and I'm just going to maybe. It'll just be called Rob. Rob. Dave's going to be awake all night thinking about this. Food for. Thought it's just, you've just blown my mind and I don't, I don't know, just will Easter be something? See, will Easter, the 6th month be something? Man, you know, we've had incoming, we've had new era. Are we going to have how long we got? 2-3 weeks. How much longer can they draw this out without like some sort of like climax to all right?

43:25 So we've loosely got a month. Sacrifice. They should call themselves sacrifice like he was a sacrifice and now a. Sacrificial lamb. Yeah. Yeah, there you go. There you go. Maybe it'd be Cabooluso juice. Cabooluso juice. Don't even Angie remember you'd noticed that the T-shirt, it had it like its own like logo and ash druid on stuff and it said like ostero or something. Osteo. Yeah, Osteo.

44:05 And that means skeleton or something. Or skull, yeah. It's like Latin for bone, I think, or something. Or skeleton. I mean, yeah, you're right. I don't know. That was probably 1 or another of those goofy things where it means nothing. But I mean, I thought it was interesting. Worth bringing up. I don't know, Sometimes I feel like I just need to super glue a tinfoil hat out of my head, but you know. I know, I know. So what do you think of the emojis, Angie? I think they're just a bunch of baloney and he's laughing. I don't know. Yeah. I I've come to the conclusion that is exactly what it is. Oh, did you see in his comments the other day, he posted a bunch of pictures from New York and someone said, what? What did you do to the hedgehog?

44:55 Or don't hurt? Like, why are you killing the hedgehog? And he said consequences. Yeah. Yeah. Like you said, the hedgehog is the name Consequences, wink wink. Consequences are leading to changing things in a new era. I wish they would. Maybe it's not just about the hedgehog. Get out of the rabbit hole. At least I'm not in the gutter. That's right, better in the rabbit hole than the gutter. That's, I love that Leslie. Because we fall down that one too. We.

45:40 Fall into the gutter. Doing a wine string. You don't know what's in our cups right now. Yeah, would not surprise me. What are you? You're not even midday yet, are you? You never know somewhere. It's 5:00 somewhere. Is that what she said? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just believe he's playing with us now. But now you've just said that it's like, Oh dear God. You never know. Yeah, I don't know. And he commented an egg on someone's post. I don't even know what that was. Oh, someone said don't get pregnant, will, so you put an egg.

46:23 That's right. So what does that mean? Like Will, are you pregnant? Maybe. Maybe he's raising chickens. Yeah, yeah. He's. Got some free range chickens? Oh, he remember he was an egg. Maybe he was egg man. Maybe it's just going to be called like egg band or something. Egg man egg, egg egg Pound no. Yeah, maybe they're that. Maybe. Yeah. There you go, Dave, maybe, Yeah. There's scan and eggshells I don't think Dave likes All right deals. You.

47:05 You've blown me away this evening, You really have. We've left you left everyone with some food for thought. Food. Food. Yes. Yeah, a whole plateful. Yay. Yeah. Leftovers for tomorrow. Yeah, tell us your theories. They can't possibly be. Any more crazier? Any more crazy? Yes. Oh, my gosh, Yeah. I want to hear what people think. Please, please, please let us know. Have we gone off the deep end? I don't know. Maybe. Oh, I think you 2 have, yes. How fun would it be if it happens, then we get to like work backwards all the clues along the way before New Era and be like, oh, that's why that and that's why that that'll be even more fun.

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