21. Lovejoy Tours Poland & Turkey; Wilbur Streams Again!

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Clicking in their ears the whole
time.

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Yeah, I'm getting annoying bad
enough for.

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Me to listen to you 2 for an
hour, let alone have a clicking

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going on, yeah.
Right, Can you imagine?

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Hello, we are Lovejoy and you
are listening to the Lovejoy

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podcast.
Hello Lovejoy Nation, Lovejoy

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Nation Podcast.
Hello Love and Joyers.

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Facts are coming.
All right, welcome back to the

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Lovejoy Nation podcast.
Angie and Dave and I are here.

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We just got off of the tour, the
very brief European Tour.

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I say we got off like we were on
the tour, but the fandom just

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returned from being on tour.
The band is back home.

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They did three shows, right, 2IN
Poland, one in Turkey.

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A really quick whirlwind tour.
But I got to say, those fans

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compared to the 28 stops in
North America, the number of

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videos and photos from those
shows, those three shows, the

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amount of content my gallery on
my phone has jam packed.

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I absolutely agree with you
there.

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My my pages have just been
Poland and Turkey.

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A side of just the concert
photos.

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What I really loved is seeing
photos of the people in queue.

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Everybody looks so excited.
They're all just pumped.

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And I mean, I want to be in, I
want to be in a queue in Poland

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because it looks like so much
fun.

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They've like totally cemented
their status as #1 love

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enjoyers.
I mean, you guys rock.

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Hands down.
Like that giant Wilbur cardboard

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cut out.
I love the getting ready for the

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concert, like their outfits and
stuff, so I love all that stuff.

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It was great to see and big
beyond that, it seemed like

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they're an incredible audience
for the band, like a really

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great crowd.
So I'm happy.

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I'm happy about that, of course.
And Warsaw and Warsaw as well.

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But you know it, it absolutely
was amazing.

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I not going to lie, I like I say
I saw more pictures and videos

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coming out from Poland and
Turkey.

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I know you sent me stuff whilst
you're in the queue and various

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things and sent me stuff I used
to wake up to, but I've seen

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more stuff on the socials than
what you've ever sent me and

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whatever you've posted from
America, whether it's because

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I'm in Europe, I don't know.
I love that Will did the Warsaw

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Wiggle in Warsaw.
We haven't seen that for a

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while.
He just busted that right out.

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Yeah, I think.
And people were worried that

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they weren't even play the song
in Warsaw, but of course they

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had to do that.
But yeah, seeing the Wiggle

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return, oh, it was great,
honestly.

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It'll be a very sad day if they
don't play Warsaw in Warsaw, you

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know what I mean?
Did the crowd would be like,

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we're not going anywhere until
you play it and you know that's

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going to happen.
I think they're stuck doing

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that.
There was a couple songs they

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didn't play that people took
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Common Touch and Death Box.
Do you think it's because the

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third guitar situation someone
David you had mentioned?

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Yeah, quite possibly because we
had the trumpeter and he played

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the keyboards as well.
I didn't see a guitar there.

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I.
Was just going to mention no no

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Yovazal as well but the lighting
especially in Turkey was

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amazing.
Brand new venue so their

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lighting setup was freaking
awesome to make up for the fact

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not having the ovazol visuals
was all I was going to add.

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I didn't notice the visuals and
it took me a while and it was

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like, well, there's nothing in
the background.

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That was a, for me, I think a
tad disappointing, don't you

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know?
Did they get the full thing?

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It was a small tour.
It's it's a shame there wasn't

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something.
I know, I get that.

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It did make for for great
photography though.

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I think the lights the way they
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pictures came out so clear in
videos too.

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There were some that even look
like they had a rainbow behind

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them and they were just
beautiful.

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But that I I know we talked
about this earlier, the picture

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after the show in Warsaw where
the guys were still on stage and

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they're all just smiley, happy
people.

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That's my new favorite Lovejoy
pic.

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Isn't that adorable?
I love it.

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They look, it's just so genuine.
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And we don't often get,
surprisingly, we don't often get

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full pictures of the band, just
the four of them, right?

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It's always just a couple of 1.
Not often do we have the four

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all together and just, yeah, the
great crowd behind them and

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their smiles were huge and
genuine so that you could tell

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it's just a great, great night.
And of course in posnem we got

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to see the new VIP match, which
was a hat and a poster, no

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cards.
I know, I know.

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Yeah, someone had said they they
got VIPs specifically for the

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cards.
Yeah, I saw that too.

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Yeah, that's.
Too bad.

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I'd be gutted, yeah.
I know you would be especially.

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Yeah.
Because I try my best to collect

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them, I can't collect them all,
but because they're stupidly

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expensive, it's a little
disappointing.

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But were the tickets cheaper?
Do you see what I'm saying?

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Obviously you've got to transfer
Polish money to dollars to Brits

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or whatever, but were the
tickets, the VIP tickets,

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slightly cheaper to counteract?
No, you know.

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Not having the cards, I don't
know.

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Yeah, OK.
But the meet and greets looked

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great.
They looked similar to ours over

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here.
The silly poses and things.

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I enjoyed to see that, you know,
enjoyed seeing that Their merch

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was cool.
Their hoodie had like a Angel

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statue kind of a thing on the
back, right?

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So cool.
In that same OST style, the red

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and black.
That was neat.

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I'm hoping that ends up on their
website.

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Exactly what I was going to say.
Even if it's like end of year

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January sale, you know this is
what's leftover.

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Right.
From this tour, that tour,

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because not necessarily the VIP
stuff, you know, and there might

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be a few butts and butts
leftover.

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Yeah.
But you know, because I'm hoping

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if we get VIP and fragments, say
we got a hat, I might be able to

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swap a hat for a scarf with one
of you 2, you know?

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Yeah, that.
Kind of thing that that would be

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kind of cool to have the hat and
the.

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Skirt.
Yeah, it was like a winter hat,

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like a beanie or like ski hat.
I like the idea that there are

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different things across the
world, potentially.

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Yeah, I'm glad they did.
They did change it up.

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Yeah, yeah.
Exclusive to Poland and Turkey.

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Exclusive to America and Canada,
So.

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And I suppose a scarf at this.
Time of the year might have been

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a little not useful, but I love
our scarves.

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They are way cool.
Moving along, moving right

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along.
Right before they embarked on

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this three stop tour, Wilbur
streamed and this was massive,

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massive news.
The last stream he had done was

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October 2023.
So he joked when he came on

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about is Barbenheimer still
cool?

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That's funny.
So he said he wanted to, he

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wants to use streaming as a way
to update fans with what's going

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on.
Stuff he's making, stuff coming

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out soon.
He wants it to be fun and not a

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job like it used to be, more of
a job like a money making thing.

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But I'm sure he's still making
some money, which we are all

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for, right?
I like how he said that

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streaming was going to be more
casual, hopefully in like green

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rooms before gigs and stuff like
that.

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I think that'll be fun.
If I remember correctly, I think

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he did a stream in a green room.
Was it?

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Oh gosh, I think it was before
the Arizona show, maybe in

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December of 2023.
Don't quote me, I'm just kind of

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pulling that.
But it was pretty fun.

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So I'm looking forward to seeing
him just be more relaxed and

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having fun with it.
Well, that was my first stream

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to watch of his.
I was not going to lie.

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Yeah, yeah, it was.
I've watched these videos, these

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geography videos and all that
that have come out, but this was

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my first live stream.
That's.

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Cool, when he started playing
games I did turn it off, I'm not

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going to lie.
So I've missed that latter part,

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but loved the information he put
out.

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That was fantastic about his
next video as well.

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But yeah, I'm I'm hoping to see
a little more backstage

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streaming.
Love that idea.

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Even if it's a, you know, I've
only got 1/4 of an hour guys,

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blah blah blah.
Here's a quick this This is

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what's happening.
Yeah, and it'd be fun to have

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the the rest of the guys pop in
on it LED as well.

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That's a possibility.
So it's not just a Wilbur dream,

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but it's sort of like Lovejoy
sprinkled stream.

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Yeah, that'd be fun.
Yeah.

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He also brought up the idea or
what's going to be hopefully if

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he didn't ruin his laptop.
He spilled water on his laptop

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shortly after making the stream.
And the future of this next

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video he was talking about, that
he was going to be putting out

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that he was still editing
sounded intriguing.

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So I really hope he didn't lose
that footage.

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It's I asked 50 psychics to
predict my future.

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He went to various psychics
around New York City and wanted

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to see, you know, what was the
common thread that they all

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brought up and what his future
would hold.

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And he was putting on a
spreadsheet as Wilbur does.

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And he loves his data.
So I look forward to that.

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And I hope, I hope it's not all
lost.

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When I heard about it, I thought
nobody's ever done that before.

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That's very interesting.
If they have, I've not heard of

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it.
I think it is a very interesting

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subject to see.
What?

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Yeah, a lot.
Yeah, but what?

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What was the problem with the
laptop?

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Got water on it, but what did we
discover?

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Well, I, I actually asked my IT
guy at work about what he should

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do and he, he said, is this a
joke?

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Because that's a MacBook from
like 20 years ago.

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And I'm like, how the hell does
he even know that?

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He's like, who's is that?
I might have a spare around

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here.
I'm like, no, no, no, no sleet

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singer abandoned UK.
That's very kind of, you know,

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it could be a.
Joke.

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Who knows?
With him, Yeah.

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So he did give some advice for
for drying it out.

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But you know, when I look
closer, it did look like there's

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a disk drive on it, which I
guess would make it an older

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model.
You don't see that anymore, but

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it ain't broke until now, you
know?

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It's the updates though, isn't
it?

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True, that's true.
So I don't know that could be

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messing with.
That or it's a bit I mean.

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Right, it could be a bit or who
knows, maybe he wanted to see

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who could tell how old that
laptop was.

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I asked the best guy.
Yeah, well, you passed.

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I'm going to say I was just.
I'm curious to see if their

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predictions matched or how
different they were.

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I'm.
Super curious.

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Yes, I know he said he made some
enemies out of those psychics

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because they weren't crazy about
him recording the sessions or

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filming the sessions.
So it also required a bit of

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crafty editing so you didn't see
the psychics or they're obscured

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in some way.
That's right.

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Yeah, it.
Could go two different ways,

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Couldn't everybody could be the
same, or the majority of people

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be very close to, or it could
have 40-50 different answers.

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We shall.
See.

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I could see why some of the
psychics were like, oh I'm going

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to cancel your appointment.
Yeah, I wonder if they share

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their their stories with the
others so that they're all on

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the same page, like this is what
I told him.

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That would be, that'd be my
worries that it's tainted by

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that.
Yeah, I mean, OK, I know he's,

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he said kind of jokingly that
they've got a WhatsApp group,

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but they may well have.
They might.

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Oh and I don't know if you used
a fake.

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I wonder if you used a fake name
too.

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That would make sense if you use
a fake name.

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So that way they couldn't say
will gold blah blah blah.

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I don't know.
I guess we'll have to find out,

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hopefully.
Yeah, All righty.

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So we also had, since our last
episode, Wilbur was on a

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podcast, Krista makes a podcast,
Krista makes us from the band

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Less Than Jake.
And so between his appearance on

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that podcast and his stream, we
did get some information, some

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Lovejoy tidbits that Angie, you
so carefully compiled into

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amazing three page outline.
So all the bases are covered.

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So this is super impressive.
So, and do you want to kick us

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off with the new EP discussion?
Oh, sure, yeah, he did say, and

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I know this was on April 20th
and I counted.

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He said very, very, very, very,
very soon, whatever that means.

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What do you guys think?
I know you had some predictions.

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Well, it's interesting you
counted 4, because remember,

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there's the whole debate if it's
44 songs, Oh no, 4 songs.

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Asterisk.
Just just don't go down there

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because it could be 5.
Oh, we didn't do a hedgehog

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update.
Hedgehog is by himself right

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now.
He had a hedgehog with a Poland

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flag, hedgehog with a Turkey
flag, and that was just a

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hedgehog.
Just had to sneak that in there.

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That's the the Hedgehog update
in He's a Lonely Hedgehog

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Instagram bio.
But anyway, 4 seems to be a

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common number that's been coming
up.

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Studio 4.
The Anvil Cat record was Studio

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4.
All right.

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Sorry, sorry, sorry, I thought.
It was.

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Stop now.
Yeah, right, right.

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We could go down that rabbit
hole for days.

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OK, yeah, so very, very, very,
very, very soon.

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How many songs will be on the
EP?

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And what did he say?
And.

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Well somebody in chat asked him
how many songs were going to be

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on the EP and he said that's a
difficult 1 and I'm quoting here

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4 :).
It'll all make sense in time.

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So if you remember Wake Up and
It's Over was supposed to be 4

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tracks ending with Scum.
But shortly before it was

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released, we'll posted an
Instagram story and I actually

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have the CD here.
I forgot that I had it.

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He posted an Instagram story
that actually has the CD.

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But we all know now it says gold
the golden hours on it, right?

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But he had like a, he had
lettering covering it up so you

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could just almost kind of see
that there was another track on

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there.
Like maybe like, OK, he wanted

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to show it, but he didn't want
to show it.

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Of course, he did it on purpose
so people would talk.

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So Golden Hour was really a
surprise fifth track on Wake Up

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and It's Over.
So I'm wondering if that's what

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we're going to get for this next
EP.

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It really sounds like there's a
surprise song on there and he's

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just being, he's just being
sneaky about it.

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Yeah, absolutely.
I mean we obviously we got Ash

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with his four fingers and all
that saying that there was 4 so

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we could be in for five.
That would be awesome the.

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Way they go.
Yeah, the more the merrier.

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And he also said the EP songs
were songs that were cut from

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One Simple Trick because they
didn't feel totally done or

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didn't fit the vibe of that
album.

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So a lot of people are
speculating wasted some maybe

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one of the tracks because he.
Did for that in chat.

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Yeah, and someone said some of
you know one of them right

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somewhere he said that somewhere
along the line.

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Yeah, yeah, when he was talking
about the when he was talking

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about the tracks on his stream,
he's like some of, you know, one

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of them.
I'm sure it'll start popping up

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in chat.
So I think we can all pretty

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much agree, right?
Is that what you heard too?

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I mean, I, I feel like it's
going to be on there, right?

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It's going to be on there.
I feel like there's going to be

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a riot if it's not on there
because the demand for it

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everywhere you turn is everybody
talking about wasted someone.

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They're like, I'm coming after
you.

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Well, where if you don't.
But I wasted summer.

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Well even back in the Spotify
thing he was like and there's

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one that you've already heard.
So I absolutely agree.

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Reddit is going to melt if
Wasted Summer isn't on there.

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The only reason I think it might
not is because what he said

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about it in his stream.
He said Angie, you've heard it

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more recently than I the
inflection.

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So I don't want to read the
quote without the correct

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inflection.
Maybe you want to read it?

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No, it's fine.
Because actually you were the

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one that brought this up and I
had totally missed it.

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Just a few days ago we were
talking about this and you

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brought it up about how.
He wasn't sure about wasted

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summer, right?
So, yeah, go ahead.

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You.
You had written it down.

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And so pardon me if I my
inflection is not exactly how he

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said it or whatever.
I can't remember, but he said

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wasted summer.
Please.

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No, I don't want to.
I don't want to talk about

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wasted summer, man.
Don't make me talk about wasted

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summer.
Too many bad memories of wasted

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summer.
Too much going on there.

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And that made me think maybe he
doesn't want to put it out or

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doesn't want to sing it anymore.
Like that was like it had its

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purpose for him, maybe
personally.

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And it was an experimental sort
of song is very different.

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I don't know.
They, they, they, they have

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eliminated other songs that
people really liked and still

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will not stop bringing up to
this day.

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So I wouldn't be surprised if
it's not on there, honestly.

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But when he says a song you know
already, I don't know what else

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it could be other than that.
Maybe it's on this EP, but maybe

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he doesn't make it a single or
he doesn't play it at concerts.

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Maybe he just puts it out there
to play it out there.

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I don't know.
You're right, Leslie, it's the

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only song that makes sense.
But like you said, it sounds

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like he really.
Is.

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Is kind of a sore spot for him
or it just brings up bad

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memories.
I mean, lyric wise, it's, it's

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like a heavy song and emotional,
not like all the other songs

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aren't, to be honest.
But yeah, food for thought.

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He also played two snippets from
his phone.

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Yeah, that's two songs from the
new EP that happened during the

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stream, right?
What did?

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What did we think of those?
We can't, can't put them up

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here, right, because of
copyrights, copyright and all

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that lot.
But they are on the stream on

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socials.
Go find them.

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What did we think?
First one I freaking loved.

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I mean, not that I didn't like
the second one either.

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The second one sounds great too.
But the first one was.

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Will even described it as
rock'n'roll heavy guitars.

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It's yeah, it sounds like a
banger.

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As Angie, you're in all over it.
How about you guys?

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What do you think?
Again, the first one sounded

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better than the second one.
Clearly, we only heard it from a

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phone, through a microphone,
through our speakers.

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Right.
So it's completely distorted as

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such, but I preferred the first
one to the second one.

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Does it say Andy?
The speculation is that that

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first song is Christie's Metal
Hands.

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Is it?
I think the speculation is that

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the second clip was Kirstie's
metal hands.

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OK OK.
Because he had mentioned

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something, he had mentioned
something in the stream after he

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played that.
He said like it's my all time

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favorite on this EP and I can't
wait for this one to come out.

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And then when Will was on the
Curse Curse Cursed podcast, the

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Curse to Makes podcast, Yeah,
the Krista Makes podcast.

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Will talks about the song.
He talks about a song named

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Kersty's Metal Hands.
And he says, it's one of my

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favourites that I've ever
written.

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And it was a it was a song that
got cut from the album.

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So I think people have put two
and two together and are kind of

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speculating that that second
clip.

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Is Kersty's metal hands.
That makes sense since you

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referred to them both that that
way I keep.

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Wanting to call it Kirsty
though.

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Kirsty.
'S metal hands.

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Stop.
I love these titles they come up

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with man though like what the
heck.

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He said these were potential
potentially on the album or one

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didn't fit the vibe and I agree
with both of those tracks not

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necessarily fitting the vibe
from the album so I think it was

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wise to remove.
Them.

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Wasn't there something else he
said, Leslie, about why they

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might these 4/5 tracks might not
be on the album?

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They weren't done.
Maybe that they were still.

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Yeah, they weren't.
Cooked.

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They weren't fully baked.
Yeah.

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Fully, totally done, he said.
So in addition to maybe not

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fitting the vibe, they didn't
feel totally done.

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OK, yeah, like you said, fully
baked Dave.

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I think that's that's right.
OK, yes, right.

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So we had someone simple trick
lore that came about with these.

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Let's see, is this from the
stream or the Actually, I guess

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it's both.
They really blended together

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some of the stream conversation
as well as the podcast.

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Again, thank you Krista makes
for having Will on.

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That was like a fascinating
hour.

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I hope he comes back and talks
about other.

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Songs absolutely fantastic it.
Was really, really, really

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brilliant just to quickly jump
in with.

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It was primarily a discussion
about the song Scoundrels really

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dissecting it the musically
like.

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Bar by bar.
And lyric by lyric, it was

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fascinating.
It was a little bit geeky at

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times for me, but I totally ate
it up, enjoyed it and I would

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love to hear the whole album
done that way, pulled apart.

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Absolutely for me, as I've said
on the last one, I don't always

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go in depth into lyrics.
You 2 have gone in depth with

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lyrics so listening and
recording the last pod of ours

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about Scoundrels Scoundrels is
one of my favourites, but

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listening to you 2 dissects it
that way.

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Listening to them to dissect it
that way.

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Fabulous, absolutely fantastic.
Loved it to put both in

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together.
Loved.

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It it was very cool and it seems
to be what he does as a podcast

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host.
So it makes me curious to listen

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to other episodes and and check
them out for sure.

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I've subscribed and so I don't
want to don't want to miss him.

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Link could be on the website.
Yes, it's a really cool concept

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for a podcast.
I dig it.

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Moving along to the OST lore, it
wasn't meant to be a concept

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album, but kind of ended up
being a inimitable writing

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procedure.
I like that he's the word that I

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only knew for the first time
from Hamilton.

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Of course, we know Wilbur's a
Hamilton fan, so he's added that

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to his vocabulary.
Repertoire, right?

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I thought it was interesting
too, because and I, I tried, I

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tried to find the exact
interview this morning, but I

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couldn't find it.
There was an interview back from

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2023, I think it was later in
the year, where Will talked

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about that he wanted the next
album to be a concept album.

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And this was before 1 Simple
Trick was, as far as we know,

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even a twinkle in their eye.
I think it's interesting that

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they went from wanting the next
album to be a concept album to

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then coming out with one simple
Trick and then curving back

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around to revisiting the concept
album.

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I'm really excited to hear how
it turns out.

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Now.
Obviously we have a wild wait,

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but now this.
Goes this goes to say a couple

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of podcasts or ago, I said to
you folks, if we didn't have one

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simple trick and the situation
didn't happen, what album would

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we get?
Now he's already said he's

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writing a concept album.
Are some of those from what he

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should have got?
Well, you know, it's interesting

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during during the stream he
mentioned that all of the One

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Simple Trick songs were written
in that room that he streamed

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from.
You know, the room with the big

452
00:26:08,120 --> 00:26:10,840
mural, the Anvil cat skull
mural, that seems to be their

453
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:12,960
studio.
I know that it had Animal.

454
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,000
Yeah, yeah.
It has like a demo recording

455
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,320
booth and stuff.
So you start to wonder, OK,

456
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,440
well, if if you really want to
get into the weeds, how long

457
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,640
have they had this place?
When did they start writing it?

458
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:28,240
Because I think that's what
we've talked about before, is

459
00:26:28,360 --> 00:26:31,600
when were some of these songs on
One Simple Trick written?

460
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,600
Were they older or were they
just written, you know?

461
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:36,440
They've had that.
Space few years.

462
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,400
For a good while.
Like, oh, because Mark, it's

463
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,800
been a while.
Drum covers from there.

464
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,560
Yeah, that's correct.
Yeah, that's right.

465
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,360
Drum covers from in there.
I love the Arctic Monkeys five O

466
00:26:46,360 --> 00:26:48,880
5 cover, Yeah.
So definitely they've had it for

467
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,360
a bit, yeah.
Carrying on, Will's the synth

468
00:26:51,360 --> 00:26:53,840
player on the record, but he
says he has no idea what he's

469
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,760
doing.
In fact, he said that messing

470
00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:00,760
around on the synth for the demo
ended up they end up using that

471
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,040
those recordings on the actual
album because to recreate it

472
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:08,120
would have been difficult.
Time consuming.

473
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:13,160
Yes, so it makes me wonder what
they do on tour then with the

474
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:19,280
keyboardist doing it I guess.
Somebody in the music business

475
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,200
that's there would be able to
listen to that track and go,

476
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,000
this is this.
Replicate it.

477
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:31,000
This is called blah blah blah.
Do you know what I mean?

478
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:32,600
Right.
And somebody that knows what

479
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,480
they're doing, yeah.
Exactly.

480
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,520
Not us.
Unlike us, Orwell, apparently.

481
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,840
Yeah, yeah.
He also mentioned that only a

482
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,240
couple songs have a trumpet
focused more on the synth of

483
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,400
this time as compared to their
other songs and albums.

484
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:52,400
And they recorded at Ali Chance
Studio in Bristol who played a

485
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:56,480
major part in the production of
OST and its signature sound.

486
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:01,160
Gave him a lot of credit.
But he did say for the next

487
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,800
concept album, they were going
to probably go in a different

488
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,480
direction just to try other
Yeah.

489
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,040
Most bands do though, don't
they?

490
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:10,640
They you know.
Yeah.

491
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:17,440
You know, sometimes they'll go
back to whoever in a few years

492
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,720
time because that's the sound
that they want.

493
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:21,880
Yeah, sounds cool to me.
I.

494
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,880
Thought it was interesting
because I know there's been some

495
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,960
discussion on the interwebs
about some people have

496
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,200
criticized the production saying
that it feels very sparse.

497
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,920
But during this Krista Makes
podcast, Chris actually said

498
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:41,200
that he really liked Ali's
production because he said it

499
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,040
feels genuine.
It feels real.

500
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,680
It feels like you guys, you're a
four piece band that could just

501
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,400
go to a pub and plug in and play
a gig.

502
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,360
Yeah, I love that.
I really did.

503
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,520
But I also don't understand the
sparse bit because to me there's

504
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,520
so much texture.
I feel like there's so many

505
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:00,680
layers.
Yeah.

506
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,960
Absolutely.
I'm a, I'm a, I've never used

507
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,040
anything.
But to me, I'd feel like every

508
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,360
time you listen, or if you have
headphones on, like Angie we've

509
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,840
talked about before, you hear
all the little things in the

510
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,800
background, like voices.
Sometimes you didn't even

511
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,640
realize were there.
So I don't really get the sparse

512
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,480
bit.
But I do like the idea of what

513
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,920
he said about, yeah, this four
piece band, like not being

514
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,720
overproduced is a quality these
days.

515
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,320
So I like that.
You know that they're going to

516
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:35,600
plug in and you are going to
hear OST as you kind of heard

517
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,160
it.
Do you know what I mean?

518
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,240
Yeah.
For sure.

519
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:44,680
All right.
So you 2 love scoundrels.

520
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,680
That's been your one of your top
favourites from the album, both

521
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,160
of you have said in previous
episodes.

522
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:55,400
So I welcome you to do the, you
know, take over the Scoundrels

523
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,360
discussion from the Christa
Makes podcast.

524
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,440
He basically said it was about
the Internet and about social

525
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,520
media.
At this point, do I turn around

526
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:06,880
and say BS?
I think it's much more deeper

527
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,800
than that, but I think he was
holding back to be.

528
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,400
Kind of surface.
Yeah, polite.

529
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:21,200
I think most of us fans kind of
know.

530
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,880
I'm not going to say who, but
what it's about.

531
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,720
And that sort of little bit was
a little bit.

532
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,120
Oh, come on, tell us.
Give us some more.

533
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,880
Don't just skim across the
surface.

534
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,040
Yeah.
Don't play it so safe, but yeah,

535
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:40,360
kind of needs to absolutely.
Yeah, yeah, I get it.

536
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:48,000
You know, bounce around online
and on the on my master.

537
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,440
Get it painfully wrong.
Yeah, although I was thinking

538
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:55,160
about it today, it was like one
of my shower thoughts was, I was

539
00:30:55,160 --> 00:31:00,360
wondering if ever he reads or
hears our theories and thinks I

540
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,360
actually like that better than
what I wrote it for.

541
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,600
Yeah, and not just our theories.
Is that?

542
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,680
Yeah.
Am I like egotistical thinking

543
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,240
that?
No, I just think maybe he's

544
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:13,800
like, wow, that's really.
Clever.

545
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:20,040
If that ever happens, I hope we
find out somehow, because I

546
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,280
would die.
Because doesn't he always say

547
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,440
that fans usually get it
painfully wrong?

548
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,920
Like he said it in very kind of
loving sort of way.

549
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,600
Like, I love you guys even if
you get my lyrics painfully and

550
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,920
correct something.
So like, it'd be nice to know

551
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:35,680
that we actually got it right
for once.

552
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,040
Right.
Did we get it right or did he

553
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:44,560
like our version of back story?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

554
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,400
That'd be even better.
Just saying.

555
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:54,440
I love what he said about, I
guess you call it the outro

556
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,360
where it feels like it's pent
out, like, like something needs

557
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,520
to burst.
You know where he starts with.

558
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:02,600
What's it even mean to be
accepted?

559
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,320
Yeah, I thought that was really
cool because that's exactly what

560
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,400
it feels like.
So it's just neat for him to put

561
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,840
that into words.
Yeah, that's my favorite part of

562
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,280
the song.
It's not not one of my top

563
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:18,040
favorite songs on the album, but
once it gets to that part, I'm

564
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,920
like, oh, OK, yeah, yeah, yeah,
this is that.

565
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,120
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I love this part, but I love

566
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:24,600
that part.
I could just listen to that part

567
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:25,360
over and.
Over again how?

568
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:29,440
Can it not be one of your top
three songs I.

569
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:35,240
Love top three songs?
That's what makes us all you

570
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,360
need.
It's it's like when you look on

571
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,400
Reddit and they go, oh, what's
your favorite from OST six

572
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,480
months down the line?
How are you thinking?

573
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:46,240
And they're like, oh, I like
this song.

574
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,520
I like that song.
And I'm thinking, where the hell

575
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,240
is Scoundrels and Monochrome?
They're quality, you know.

576
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,800
What it is I think if I had to
pick favorite lyrics from the

577
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,040
whole album, they would not get
the.

578
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,080
Favorite song, not lyrics.
Those lyrics are like my

579
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,440
favorite lyrics on the album,
but not top songs.

580
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:07,840
Top song no, but I would never
skip.

581
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,600
I never skip any songs I
listened all the way through all

582
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,320
the way through every time I.
Must admit I do.

583
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,640
I still can't get my head brown
Why people like Perfect Blue?

584
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,880
But then this is exactly it.
Everybody's different, we all

585
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:24,840
like different things.
So I understand if Perfect Blue

586
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:30,080
was your top song.
It's not for me, but it is for

587
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,720
them.
But you know, Scoundrel should

588
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,560
be up there in your top three.
It's always, it's always

589
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,480
interesting.
Yeah, the tier list that people

590
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,320
come up with, they have death
box at the bottom.

591
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,200
I'm like, what?
What?

592
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,560
Anyway.
I liked what Will said too about

593
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:52,440
he talks about Joe and how Joe
carries some of the light higher

594
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:57,200
melodies in Scoundrels, which I
think sometimes, although Joe

595
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,800
has definitely had more of an
opportunity to shine on OST

596
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,680
which I love.
Definitely.

597
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,360
It's it's really cool of him to
point that out on Scoundrels,

598
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,159
because that's not something
that I might have picked up on

599
00:34:10,159 --> 00:34:13,440
my own.
I say I I don't know much about

600
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,719
music, Joe.
You're you do it all.

601
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,239
You're rock.
Star, I feel like he's a diamond

602
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,280
in the rough now.
We starting to starting to get

603
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,760
revealed, right?
Yeah, he's like a.

604
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:23,639
Singer.
Band.

605
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:28,120
Because he doesn't look like a
rock star.

606
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,280
There's a lot of indie bands
over the years that you, you

607
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,800
look at them and you think, OK,
you're very middle class out of

608
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,440
university.
You dress like this.

609
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:44,239
He doesn't even dress like the
middle class university rock

610
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:48,440
star.
He's just got his little coat

611
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:53,760
on, you know, turn up jeans and
and that's it.

612
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,679
Yeah, he doesn't he look.
Like a rock star, but it's

613
00:34:56,679 --> 00:35:00,280
exactly what you said and he's.
He's just a guy.

614
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,760
He's just a guy in his car heart
and he loves his beer and he

615
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:08,880
loves his football.
Yeah, but but underneath all

616
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:14,920
that, he is a rock God.
Yeah, You know, you look at Ash,

617
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,160
he dresses like a rock star.
You look at some of these rock

618
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:22,600
stars out there, they dress like
rock stars all the time, you

619
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,040
know?
And the other fun part just to

620
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,560
wrap up the scoundrels
discussion was the screaming

621
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:31,400
section right before the outro
Will said it was.

622
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,240
He was in the studio late at
night just screaming from one

623
00:35:34,240 --> 00:35:36,760
side of the studio into the room
mic.

624
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,480
I wish I could have.
I wish I could have been a

625
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,000
family on the wall.
That would have been great,

626
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,120
yeah.
And I hope he doesn't have, you

627
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,960
know, nearby neighbors hear him
screaming.

628
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:51,800
Oh, but soundproof.
I was surprised at the amount of

629
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:56,520
really good info that we got
from his stream and from the

630
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,480
podcast that he did with Krista
makes.

631
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,320
Once you kind of drill down a
little bit, there is some good

632
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:07,680
juicy stuff in here and it's.
Yeah, especially with the

633
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,400
stream, because you would think
maybe you wouldn't talk so much

634
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:15,320
about the Lovejoy stuff.
He'd focus more just on the Geo

635
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,960
guesser and, you know, silly
chitchat kind of stuff.

636
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,640
That was fun.
For me personally, thank

637
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,320
goodness, because you know, I'm
a big fan of Lego.

638
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:28,280
But for me to sit and watch a
person build Lego, many people

639
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,080
do it.
I'd rather watch paint dry.

640
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,280
But you're also not the
demographic of the average love.

641
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:38,280
I get that, absolutely.
I I totally get that.

642
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:43,720
But I'm glad we got a lot of
information across both as a as

643
00:36:43,720 --> 00:36:49,840
a Lovejoy fan, yeah.
We got info beyond the EP

644
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,200
regarding their next album,
which we've touched on already.

645
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,960
Lovejoy's in the process of
writing a concept album,

646
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:59,080
technically a rock opera, which
I'm a huge fan of Tommy, so

647
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:00,680
hearing the words rock.
Opera.

648
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,200
Exciting.
Yeah, rock opera.

649
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,000
I immediately thought of Black
Parade.

650
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,880
So that was that's kind of my
of.

651
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,960
Course you did.
My faves.

652
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,080
Let's see future touring, he
said.

653
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,040
There's a few songs from Wake Up
and it's over.

654
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,400
He wants to start playing again.
Warsaw is great Consequences,

655
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:22,400
Golden Hour somewhere.
When asked if they'd ever

656
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:27,080
torched Scandinavia, Will said
Italy and Scandinavia, such a

657
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:32,360
long stretch, long thin
countries with large spaces

658
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,200
between the population centres
means you've got a lot of travel

659
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:39,160
time and that cuts back.
If they could afford it, they

660
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,680
would do it, but it's it makes
it tricky for touring.

661
00:37:41,720 --> 00:37:45,120
Unfortunately, I.
Fully understand that unless

662
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:49,640
you've got a couple of capitals
which you can dart across and

663
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:55,600
zig zig zag thing down then it
could potentially work.

664
00:37:55,600 --> 00:38:00,360
But I understand that.
Oh, and Dave, we didn't, we

665
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:04,560
forgot to touch on it.
The those that turned out for

666
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:10,000
Poland and Turkey, quite a few
travelled far distances.

667
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:18,120
Blew my mind again, you know,
and I believe it's the same

668
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:22,520
person, but at the London show,
a girl flew in from Hungary.

669
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,160
A girl flew in from Hungary to
Poland.

670
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,640
Somebody flew in from the UK to
Poland.

671
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,040
When some were like trains, I I
don't know if there's.

672
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,000
One between the sweat.
Things but.

673
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:40,560
Did I hear 17 Hour Journey truly
have dedicated fans?

674
00:38:42,720 --> 00:38:44,840
Yeah.
And to get to see your favorite

675
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:49,080
band in these smaller venues, to
have these meet and greets,

676
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:54,120
these VIP options, Yeah.
I mean, I could have hopped on a

677
00:38:54,120 --> 00:39:00,800
plane quite locally, flown into
Warsaw quite cheaply.

678
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,680
I could have done the whole
thing quite cheaply.

679
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,920
I've still been a few £100 for
the pod.

680
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:07,280
It was my birthday.
Even.

681
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,160
Better.
Right.

682
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,200
No brainer.
And then I'd have my daughter.

683
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:15,280
Can I come?
No.

684
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,760
Why can't I come?
Because you've got school.

685
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:24,400
Well, then you're not going.
Poor child deprived that one,

686
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,720
yeah.
Yeah, as all our kids are.

687
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,920
She doesn't do her homework.
She will be.

688
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,200
But I'm bumped, all right?
I asked if they'd come back to

689
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,280
Australia.
Oh man, what do you mean 100%?

690
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,480
That's not even a maybe.
Like as long as Lovejoy is

691
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,320
around or we're coming to
Australia.

692
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,360
Now that's a trip Angie and I
won't be able to make because I

693
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,080
think that's definitely cross
prohibitive.

694
00:39:49,720 --> 00:39:54,160
Yep, don't look at me either.
That's stupid amounts of time on

695
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,400
a plane, stupid amounts of money
on a plane.

696
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:02,560
I've got family in Sydney which
cuts that's the cost down.

697
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,920
Yeah.
Yeah, but no, I might drive

698
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:12,520
around the UK for a couple, but.
All right, solo career And do

699
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,680
you want to touch on what we're
talking about, oh, solo career

700
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:21,360
prospects?
During his stream, he divulged

701
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:26,560
that he is hoping to release a
solo album in the big year of

702
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,840
2026.
He says he's got some songs

703
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,960
written and somebody's asked are
they going to be sad?

704
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,960
He's like, no, not really.
He said again, just like with

705
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:39,040
Mammalian Sign Reflex that it
would just drop without any

706
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,080
fanfare, no real promotion or
just there it is.

707
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,280
So I guess we'll keep our eyes
peeled.

708
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:50,480
Yes, you know we will be.
And then he played a song that

709
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:54,760
might make it on the album All.
I can say is thank goodness I'd

710
00:40:54,760 --> 00:41:00,600
turn it off by then, otherwise I
would have listened to a Wilbur

711
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,960
solo track.
Oh no, not without you, your

712
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,000
face being recorded.
I know.

713
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:10,040
So I haven't actually heard that
and I know you put it on the

714
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,480
socials.
I just liked it and moved along.

715
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:15,680
I don't know if I put that one
on the socials.

716
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,440
I just put Jubilee line.
I guess I should be.

717
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,400
Putting Jubilee line then you
didn't put the other one on.

718
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,160
Oh, but you shouldn't have heard
Jubilee line either.

719
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:29,200
I hear clips because you scroll
through the what is it the tick

720
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,600
tock and you hear clips and it's
like.

721
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,480
In case any mirror.
Listen to a full song.

722
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:38,560
If you're a new listener, it's
because we are in the works or

723
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:43,320
to to have a Dave Reacts series
on YouTube.

724
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,840
Dave reacts to Wilbur solo songs
because he's not very familiar

725
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:51,440
with any or most of them.
The only song I've ever heard

726
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,920
was E Girl, which was played to
me.

727
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,240
I've like I say, I've heard
clips.

728
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,080
That's it.
Sometimes I play that one on

729
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,560
repeat like 20 times.
I just just get in one of these

730
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,960
moods.
I just have to, I don't know

731
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:05,800
what to say.
Alrighty then.

732
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:11,320
Yeah, moving along.
General Lovejoy info the live

733
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,360
shows have no supplemental pre
recorded tracks.

734
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,720
All the sound you hear is just
them and they but they you do

735
00:42:16,720 --> 00:42:18,360
use a quick track.
Is that that thing that like

736
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,280
keeps them like like the meter?
Is that what they mean?

737
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:22,520
OK.
Yeah, I think so.

738
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,080
Which I found crazy that that's
like what they hear in their

739
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,120
ears during the show.
Isn't that wild?

740
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,160
Like, you hear that clicking in
their ears the whole time?

741
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:30,520
Yeah.
It would get annoying bad.

742
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:36,880
Enough for me to listen to you 2
for an hour, let alone have a

743
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:38,720
clicking going on.
Yeah, right.

744
00:42:38,720 --> 00:42:45,200
Can you imagine Will sometimes
uses a vocal hiccup is how

745
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:49,440
Krista makes referred to it as
scoundrels Normal people things.

746
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:53,000
I love when he does that.
I have to admit, when I first

747
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,320
heard it in normal people
things, I thought it was kind of

748
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,120
weird.
But now I love it and I sing

749
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:01,560
along with the songs doing it
too that little like whatever

750
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,800
they call it slide.
He called it a vocal slide.

751
00:43:06,240 --> 00:43:10,920
I love in the normal people
things video where he does that

752
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:14,960
Someone Like You and then he
somehow raises one of his

753
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:18,600
eyebrows like he's totally it's
like frozen except he just

754
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,920
raises one eyebrow.
You I can't do it but.

755
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,440
You kind of do it.
It's like, whoa, you.

756
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,760
Yeah, they're.
But yeah, he says.

757
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:31,360
He says the band.
I don't.

758
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,160
Know if he's?
Yeah.

759
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:38,600
Yeah, he says the band doesn't
like when he does that and.

760
00:43:38,720 --> 00:43:40,640
I was like, he wants to let they
don't want to see.

761
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,840
He'd sprinkle them in, but not
don't overdo.

762
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,040
But I I enjoy it.
I think it's fun.

763
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,200
Yeah, absolutely.
I do too.

764
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,840
Just another thing with
scoundrels we wanted to touch on

765
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:56,680
was the ending of the song.
Just let's go back before we

766
00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:01,440
finish up that podcast interview
discussion, the end of the song

767
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:11,440
A scoundrels all I'll ever.
And we thought he was going to

768
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:16,320
say all over B, but he says
because he doesn't finish the

769
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,520
line.
But Ang, what did he say on the

770
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,960
podcast was what is the missing
word there?

771
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:27,800
He said it was no all I'll ever
know KNOW.

772
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,000
Which kind of pulled my mind.
I was like, what?

773
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:35,560
Yes, because I can't hear that
like being sung either.

774
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:40,200
Like can't either.
It doesn't like to me, it

775
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:41,800
doesn't flow.
But that's because I always

776
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:46,000
filled in the blank with B.
In my brain I know.

777
00:44:46,240 --> 00:44:50,400
Or maybe, maybe in his mind he
says it like at the end of White

778
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:55,320
Shark Cafe, where it's like.
No, just that loud.

779
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,080
Kind of.
Cross my mind, yeah.

780
00:44:57,720 --> 00:45:01,400
Yeah.
Oh, maybe you don't put it in

781
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:02,720
the other one instead of that
one.

782
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,040
I mean, you don't want 2 songs
that ended with the same

783
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,040
sounding word.
Yeah.

784
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:13,120
I don't know, I don't know.
I don't know, it threw me off

785
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:14,280
too.
It did.

786
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,640
It did.
So that makes me think, how much

787
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,080
other crap do we get wrong?
We got that one word wrong.

788
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,640
Oh wait, do you know what?
All of it.

789
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:26,040
How many times, how many times
have we been like this week

790
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,320
we're going to get something
this week, we're going to no,

791
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:29,920
no, let's not record.
I can't.

792
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:31,600
Do it anymore I can't.
The following week.

793
00:45:31,720 --> 00:45:37,000
Anymore, I can't go on live on
Instagram or TikTok anymore and

794
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:41,440
say, guys, tomorrow is Tuesday,
it's going to be something.

795
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:42,840
Friday it's going to be
something.

796
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,840
No, I can't do it anymore.
One of these times will be

797
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:49,640
right, so we just keep saying it
and eventually we'll be right.

798
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,400
Wasn't like a clock.
A broken clock is wrong, right?

799
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:53,440
Twice.
Two times a day, yes.

800
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:59,360
That's.
Us, once again, we know nothing

801
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:03,840
for sure.
Personally, Wilbur mentioned.

802
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,960
He's sort of split between
living in New York and England.

803
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,360
He's always wanted to live in
New York and spent spending some

804
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,760
time there hasn't been enjoying
it, so he's sort of sees himself

805
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:17,800
going back and forth, which is
good for me and good for Dave

806
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:19,920
and Angela.
Just have to pick one.

807
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,480
Closer to you, Ange.
I guess.

808
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:29,880
I'll just hopefully you'll both
be on a plane when he flies to

809
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:36,400
UK so you can sit next to him.
Oh gosh, I'm sure that's exactly

810
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:37,120
what.
He wants.

811
00:46:38,240 --> 00:46:40,960
Sitting next, yeah.
Yeah, I'm sure he would.

812
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:47,520
Love that I'm sure he's would
rather be like unknown on the

813
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:52,040
plane.
So anyway, to finish up this

814
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:56,200
episode of the pod, we thought
we would start a new segment

815
00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:01,000
because why not an episode 21?
We've received some really great

816
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:04,960
reviews since the start and
we've acknowledged, I think we

817
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:08,120
did in the beginning days, some
of them that we've gotten, but

818
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:13,240
we sort of have enjoyed them on
our own without mentioning them

819
00:47:13,240 --> 00:47:16,160
on here.
And so we felt it would be nice

820
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:20,520
to acknowledge and thank those
that have gone to the trouble of

821
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,840
leaving us reviews.
And please, I hope this inspires

822
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:27,880
some more and to leave your
ratings for Spotify, the five

823
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:29,920
stars, if you like it, if you
like us.

824
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,120
So I just wanted to pull out
some reviews.

825
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,280
These are probably like the last
100 days or so.

826
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:40,280
You don't get a million reviews,
but the ones we do get are warm

827
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:44,400
our hearts.
So Bug on Spotify said These

828
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,400
podcasts have been making my
work day so much easier.

829
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,040
Great work as always.
That is awesome.

830
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,240
It does.
It's lovely because, you know,

831
00:47:52,240 --> 00:47:55,600
sometimes some of us don't
always see them straight away or

832
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:59,560
whatever and and we just post it
across time difference and you

833
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:03,080
kind of wake up and you think,
oh, that's lovely.

834
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,160
And then you sort of go in and
and then convert.

835
00:48:06,240 --> 00:48:07,720
You know what I mean?
It's lovely.

836
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:11,280
Yeah.
Joe Joanna I love watching

837
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:16,440
these, they always make my day.
Keep it up with a hedgehog

838
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:20,480
emoji.
So sweet.

839
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,760
That's very cute.
And I think I, I think I met

840
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:28,520
Joanna, if this is the right
Joanna at Summerfest and if this

841
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,240
is the right Joanna.
Joanna, you are super sweet and

842
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,000
thank you for leaving the review
and I'm really glad that I got

843
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,000
to meet you.
Oh, that's nice.

844
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,000
There's another one here from
Sky.

845
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,120
Sky says.
The intro from the boys still

846
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:48,400
makes me so happy.
My heart, it makes us so happy

847
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:49,280
too.
Thank you for.

848
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,000
I know.
Thank you for saying that, Sky.

849
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,520
You know, the other day in my
car, I like I was listening to

850
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:59,080
something and ended and then our
podcast came on the radio and

851
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,480
all of a sudden I hear Hello
love enjoyers.

852
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,960
I was like, whoa, it like took
me a second.

853
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:05,400
I was like, oh, that's us.
That's our show.

854
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:10,760
That's cool.
It doesn't get old, AJ on

855
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:12,480
Spotify wrote.
I've been waiting for this

856
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:14,480
episode.
I can't wait for the new songs

857
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,240
and everything that Lovejoy is
working on.

858
00:49:16,240 --> 00:49:17,920
Keep up the work.
Good work guys.

859
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:20,800
That was regarding the new with
EP songs.

860
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:26,120
So thank you AJ.
Nice, thank you, Amy said cool

861
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:32,160
intro fire podcast, but then I
love that short and sweet cool

862
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,480
intro fire podcast.
I will take that.

863
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,520
Thank you so much, Amy.
That's awesome.

864
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:45,880
Yeah, I'm frog kid on YouTube.
Decided to watch this while

865
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:47,760
having a breakdown in the
bathroom.

866
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,440
I am now smiling from ear to
ear.

867
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:53,680
I'm glad we've done that for
you.

868
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:59,360
I'm glad we could help.
Like really, thank you for like

869
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,240
taking the moment to even tell
us that even though you're

870
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:05,600
having a tough time.
And I'm glad that we helped you,

871
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,080
like get you out of it a bit in
our own way.

872
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:13,360
That means so much.
That's yeah, that's thank you

873
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:18,320
for thank you for letting us
know that we feel special.

874
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:22,240
Yeah, and if you want to be
featured, leave us a review.

875
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:27,040
Yeah just a couple more
milkshake V7 S Whoa, love this

876
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:32,560
Lovejoy nation podcast.
Also Banjo Stig 67.

877
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:34,680
So glad you guys used it as the
intro.

878
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,400
It was so cool seeing a post on
Instagram a few weeks ago.

879
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:41,000
Why am I not surprised we'll
messed it up to begin with?

880
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:46,040
LMAO that's awesome.
I just love it.

881
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:50,200
So thanks guys.
It really means a lot to us and

882
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:54,320
thanks as always for listening
and we hope that we have news in

883
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:58,840
the coming soon's like big news.
We are due for some big, big

884
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,640
news.
Maybe 8?

885
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:04,720
See you on the social, see you
online.

886
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:06,000
Take care.
Bye, guys.

887
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:08,360
Ciao.
Bye.