21. Lovejoy Tours Poland & Turkey; Wilbur Streams Again!

0:00 Clicking in their ears the whole time. Yeah, I'm getting annoying bad enough for. Me to listen to you 2 for an hour, let alone have a clicking going on, yeah. Right, Can you imagine? Hello, we are Lovejoy and you are listening to the Lovejoy podcast. Hello Lovejoy Nation, Lovejoy Nation Podcast. Hello Love and Joyers. Facts are coming. All right, welcome back to the Lovejoy Nation podcast. Angie and Dave and I are here. We just got off of the tour, the very brief European Tour. I say we got off like we were on the tour, but the fandom just returned from being on tour. The band is back home.

0:44 They did three shows, right, 2IN Poland, one in Turkey. A really quick whirlwind tour. But I got to say, those fans compared to the 28 stops in North America, the number of videos and photos from those shows, those three shows, the amount of content my gallery on my phone has jam packed. I absolutely agree with you there. My my pages have just been Poland and Turkey. A side of just the concert photos. What I really loved is seeing photos of the people in queue. Everybody looks so excited. They're all just pumped.

1:28 And I mean, I want to be in, I want to be in a queue in Poland because it looks like so much fun. They've like totally cemented their status as #1 love enjoyers. I mean, you guys rock. Hands down. Like that giant Wilbur cardboard cut out. I love the getting ready for the concert, like their outfits and stuff, so I love all that stuff. It was great to see and big beyond that, it seemed like they're an incredible audience for the band, like a really great crowd. So I'm happy. I'm happy about that, of course. And Warsaw and Warsaw as well. But you know it, it absolutely was amazing.

2:08 I not going to lie, I like I say I saw more pictures and videos coming out from Poland and Turkey. I know you sent me stuff whilst you're in the queue and various things and sent me stuff I used to wake up to, but I've seen more stuff on the socials than what you've ever sent me and whatever you've posted from America, whether it's because I'm in Europe, I don't know. I love that Will did the Warsaw Wiggle in Warsaw. We haven't seen that for a while. He just busted that right out. Yeah, I think. And people were worried that they weren't even play the song in Warsaw, but of course they had to do that. But yeah, seeing the Wiggle return, oh, it was great, honestly.

2:52 It'll be a very sad day if they don't play Warsaw in Warsaw, you know what I mean? Did the crowd would be like, we're not going anywhere until you play it and you know that's going to happen. I think they're stuck doing that. There was a couple songs they didn't play that people took note. Common Touch and Death Box. Do you think it's because the third guitar situation someone David you had mentioned? Yeah, quite possibly because we had the trumpeter and he played the keyboards as well. I didn't see a guitar there. I. Was just going to mention no no Yovazal as well but the lighting especially in Turkey was amazing. Brand new venue so their lighting setup was freaking awesome to make up for the fact not having the ovazol visuals was all I was going to add.

3:45 I didn't notice the visuals and it took me a while and it was like, well, there's nothing in the background. That was a, for me, I think a tad disappointing, don't you know? Did they get the full thing? It was a small tour. It's it's a shame there wasn't something. I know, I get that. It did make for for great photography though. I think the lights the way they were, that's why so many phone pictures came out so clear in videos too. There were some that even look like they had a rainbow behind them and they were just beautiful. But that I I know we talked about this earlier, the picture after the show in Warsaw where the guys were still on stage and they're all just smiley, happy people.

4:34 That's my new favorite Lovejoy pic. Isn't that adorable? I love it. They look, it's just so genuine. Yes. And we don't often get, surprisingly, we don't often get full pictures of the band, just the four of them, right? It's always just a couple of 1. Not often do we have the four all together and just, yeah, the great crowd behind them and their smiles were huge and genuine so that you could tell it's just a great, great night. And of course in posnem we got to see the new VIP match, which was a hat and a poster, no cards. I know, I know.

5:14 Yeah, someone had said they they got VIPs specifically for the cards. Yeah, I saw that too. Yeah, that's. Too bad. I'd be gutted, yeah. I know you would be especially. Yeah. Because I try my best to collect them, I can't collect them all, but because they're stupidly expensive, it's a little disappointing. But were the tickets cheaper? Do you see what I'm saying? Obviously you've got to transfer Polish money to dollars to Brits or whatever, but were the tickets, the VIP tickets, slightly cheaper to counteract? No, you know.

5:58 Not having the cards, I don't know. Yeah, OK. But the meet and greets looked great. They looked similar to ours over here. The silly poses and things. I enjoyed to see that, you know, enjoyed seeing that Their merch was cool. Their hoodie had like a Angel statue kind of a thing on the back, right? So cool. In that same OST style, the red and black. That was neat. I'm hoping that ends up on their website. Exactly what I was going to say. Even if it's like end of year January sale, you know this is what's leftover. Right. From this tour, that tour, because not necessarily the VIP stuff, you know, and there might be a few butts and butts leftover.

6:39 Yeah. But you know, because I'm hoping if we get VIP and fragments, say we got a hat, I might be able to swap a hat for a scarf with one of you 2, you know? Yeah, that. Kind of thing that that would be kind of cool to have the hat and the. Skirt. Yeah, it was like a winter hat, like a beanie or like ski hat. I like the idea that there are different things across the world, potentially. Yeah, I'm glad they did. They did change it up. Yeah, yeah. Exclusive to Poland and Turkey. Exclusive to America and Canada, So. And I suppose a scarf at this. Time of the year might have been a little not useful, but I love our scarves.

7:23 They are way cool. Moving along, moving right along. Right before they embarked on this three stop tour, Wilbur streamed and this was massive, massive news. The last stream he had done was October 2023. So he joked when he came on about is Barbenheimer still cool? That's funny. So he said he wanted to, he wants to use streaming as a way to update fans with what's going on. Stuff he's making, stuff coming out soon. He wants it to be fun and not a job like it used to be, more of a job like a money making thing. But I'm sure he's still making some money, which we are all for, right? I like how he said that streaming was going to be more casual, hopefully in like green rooms before gigs and stuff like that.

8:10 I think that'll be fun. If I remember correctly, I think he did a stream in a green room. Was it? Oh gosh, I think it was before the Arizona show, maybe in December of 2023. Don't quote me, I'm just kind of pulling that. But it was pretty fun. So I'm looking forward to seeing him just be more relaxed and having fun with it. Well, that was my first stream to watch of his. I was not going to lie. Yeah, yeah, it was. I've watched these videos, these geography videos and all that that have come out, but this was my first live stream. That's. Cool, when he started playing games I did turn it off, I'm not going to lie. So I've missed that latter part, but loved the information he put out.

9:01 That was fantastic about his next video as well. But yeah, I'm I'm hoping to see a little more backstage streaming. Love that idea. Even if it's a, you know, I've only got 1/4 of an hour guys, blah blah blah. Here's a quick this This is what's happening. Yeah, and it'd be fun to have the the rest of the guys pop in on it LED as well. That's a possibility. So it's not just a Wilbur dream, but it's sort of like Lovejoy sprinkled stream. Yeah, that'd be fun. Yeah. He also brought up the idea or what's going to be hopefully if he didn't ruin his laptop. He spilled water on his laptop shortly after making the stream. And the future of this next video he was talking about, that he was going to be putting out that he was still editing sounded intriguing.

9:56 So I really hope he didn't lose that footage. It's I asked 50 psychics to predict my future. He went to various psychics around New York City and wanted to see, you know, what was the common thread that they all brought up and what his future would hold. And he was putting on a spreadsheet as Wilbur does. And he loves his data. So I look forward to that. And I hope, I hope it's not all lost. When I heard about it, I thought nobody's ever done that before. That's very interesting. If they have, I've not heard of it. I think it is a very interesting subject to see. What?

10:40 Yeah, a lot. Yeah, but what? What was the problem with the laptop? Got water on it, but what did we discover? Well, I, I actually asked my IT guy at work about what he should do and he, he said, is this a joke? Because that's a MacBook from like 20 years ago. And I'm like, how the hell does he even know that? He's like, who's is that? I might have a spare around here. I'm like, no, no, no, no sleet singer abandoned UK. That's very kind of, you know, it could be a. Joke. Who knows? With him, Yeah. So he did give some advice for for drying it out. But you know, when I look closer, it did look like there's a disk drive on it, which I guess would make it an older model. You don't see that anymore, but it ain't broke until now, you know?

11:30 It's the updates though, isn't it? True, that's true. So I don't know that could be messing with. That or it's a bit I mean. Right, it could be a bit or who knows, maybe he wanted to see who could tell how old that laptop was. I asked the best guy. Yeah, well, you passed. I'm going to say I was just. I'm curious to see if their predictions matched or how different they were. I'm. Super curious. Yes, I know he said he made some enemies out of those psychics because they weren't crazy about him recording the sessions or filming the sessions. So it also required a bit of crafty editing so you didn't see the psychics or they're obscured in some way. That's right.

12:23 Yeah, it. Could go two different ways, Couldn't everybody could be the same, or the majority of people be very close to, or it could have 40-50 different answers. We shall. See. I could see why some of the psychics were like, oh I'm going to cancel your appointment. Yeah, I wonder if they share their their stories with the others so that they're all on the same page, like this is what I told him. That would be, that'd be my worries that it's tainted by that. Yeah, I mean, OK, I know he's, he said kind of jokingly that they've got a WhatsApp group, but they may well have. They might.

13:10 Oh and I don't know if you used a fake. I wonder if you used a fake name too. That would make sense if you use a fake name. So that way they couldn't say will gold blah blah blah. I don't know. I guess we'll have to find out, hopefully. Yeah, All righty. So we also had, since our last episode, Wilbur was on a podcast, Krista makes a podcast, Krista makes us from the band Less Than Jake. And so between his appearance on that podcast and his stream, we did get some information, some Lovejoy tidbits that Angie, you so carefully compiled into amazing three page outline. So all the bases are covered.

13:58 So this is super impressive. So, and do you want to kick us off with the new EP discussion? Oh, sure, yeah, he did say, and I know this was on April 20th and I counted. He said very, very, very, very, very soon, whatever that means. What do you guys think? I know you had some predictions. Well, it's interesting you counted 4, because remember, there's the whole debate if it's 44 songs, Oh no, 4 songs. Asterisk. Just just don't go down there because it could be 5. Oh, we didn't do a hedgehog update. Hedgehog is by himself right now. He had a hedgehog with a Poland flag, hedgehog with a Turkey flag, and that was just a hedgehog. Just had to sneak that in there.

14:43 That's the the Hedgehog update in He's a Lonely Hedgehog Instagram bio. But anyway, 4 seems to be a common number that's been coming up. Studio 4. The Anvil Cat record was Studio 4. All right. Sorry, sorry, sorry, I thought. It was. Stop now. Yeah, right, right. We could go down that rabbit hole for days. OK, yeah, so very, very, very, very, very soon. How many songs will be on the EP? And what did he say? And. Well somebody in chat asked him how many songs were going to be on the EP and he said that's a difficult 1 and I'm quoting here 4 :). It'll all make sense in time. So if you remember Wake Up and It's Over was supposed to be 4 tracks ending with Scum. But shortly before it was released, we'll posted an Instagram story and I actually have the CD here. I forgot that I had it.

15:39 He posted an Instagram story that actually has the CD. But we all know now it says gold the golden hours on it, right? But he had like a, he had lettering covering it up so you could just almost kind of see that there was another track on there. Like maybe like, OK, he wanted to show it, but he didn't want to show it. Of course, he did it on purpose so people would talk. So Golden Hour was really a surprise fifth track on Wake Up and It's Over. So I'm wondering if that's what we're going to get for this next EP. It really sounds like there's a surprise song on there and he's just being, he's just being sneaky about it.

16:22 Yeah, absolutely. I mean we obviously we got Ash with his four fingers and all that saying that there was 4 so we could be in for five. That would be awesome the. Way they go. Yeah, the more the merrier. And he also said the EP songs were songs that were cut from One Simple Trick because they didn't feel totally done or didn't fit the vibe of that album. So a lot of people are speculating wasted some maybe one of the tracks because he. Did for that in chat. Yeah, and someone said some of you know one of them right somewhere he said that somewhere along the line.

17:02 Yeah, yeah, when he was talking about the when he was talking about the tracks on his stream, he's like some of, you know, one of them. I'm sure it'll start popping up in chat. So I think we can all pretty much agree, right? Is that what you heard too? I mean, I, I feel like it's going to be on there, right? It's going to be on there. I feel like there's going to be a riot if it's not on there because the demand for it everywhere you turn is everybody talking about wasted someone. They're like, I'm coming after you. Well, where if you don't. But I wasted summer. Well even back in the Spotify thing he was like and there's one that you've already heard. So I absolutely agree.

17:42 Reddit is going to melt if Wasted Summer isn't on there. The only reason I think it might not is because what he said about it in his stream. He said Angie, you've heard it more recently than I the inflection. So I don't want to read the quote without the correct inflection. Maybe you want to read it? No, it's fine. Because actually you were the one that brought this up and I had totally missed it. Just a few days ago we were talking about this and you brought it up about how. He wasn't sure about wasted summer, right? So, yeah, go ahead. You. You had written it down. And so pardon me if I my inflection is not exactly how he said it or whatever. I can't remember, but he said wasted summer. Please. No, I don't want to. I don't want to talk about wasted summer, man. Don't make me talk about wasted summer. Too many bad memories of wasted summer. Too much going on there.

18:29 And that made me think maybe he doesn't want to put it out or doesn't want to sing it anymore. Like that was like it had its purpose for him, maybe personally. And it was an experimental sort of song is very different. I don't know. They, they, they, they have eliminated other songs that people really liked and still will not stop bringing up to this day. So I wouldn't be surprised if it's not on there, honestly. But when he says a song you know already, I don't know what else it could be other than that. Maybe it's on this EP, but maybe he doesn't make it a single or he doesn't play it at concerts. Maybe he just puts it out there to play it out there.

19:11 I don't know. You're right, Leslie, it's the only song that makes sense. But like you said, it sounds like he really. Is. Is kind of a sore spot for him or it just brings up bad memories. I mean, lyric wise, it's, it's like a heavy song and emotional, not like all the other songs aren't, to be honest. But yeah, food for thought. He also played two snippets from his phone. Yeah, that's two songs from the new EP that happened during the stream, right? What did? What did we think of those? We can't, can't put them up here, right, because of copyrights, copyright and all that lot. But they are on the stream on socials. Go find them.

20:01 What did we think? First one I freaking loved. I mean, not that I didn't like the second one either. The second one sounds great too. But the first one was. Will even described it as rock'n'roll heavy guitars. It's yeah, it sounds like a banger. As Angie, you're in all over it. How about you guys? What do you think? Again, the first one sounded better than the second one. Clearly, we only heard it from a phone, through a microphone, through our speakers. Right. So it's completely distorted as such, but I preferred the first one to the second one.

20:43 Does it say Andy? The speculation is that that first song is Christie's Metal Hands. Is it? I think the speculation is that the second clip was Kirstie's metal hands. OK OK. Because he had mentioned something, he had mentioned something in the stream after he played that. He said like it's my all time favorite on this EP and I can't wait for this one to come out. And then when Will was on the Curse Curse Cursed podcast, the Curse to Makes podcast, Yeah, the Krista Makes podcast. Will talks about the song. He talks about a song named Kersty's Metal Hands. And he says, it's one of my favourites that I've ever written.

21:26 And it was a it was a song that got cut from the album. So I think people have put two and two together and are kind of speculating that that second clip. Is Kersty's metal hands. That makes sense since you referred to them both that that way I keep. Wanting to call it Kirsty though. Kirsty. 'S metal hands. Stop. I love these titles they come up with man though like what the heck. He said these were potential potentially on the album or one didn't fit the vibe and I agree with both of those tracks not necessarily fitting the vibe from the album so I think it was wise to remove. Them.

22:15 Wasn't there something else he said, Leslie, about why they might these 4/5 tracks might not be on the album? They weren't done. Maybe that they were still. Yeah, they weren't. Cooked. They weren't fully baked. Yeah. Fully, totally done, he said. So in addition to maybe not fitting the vibe, they didn't feel totally done. OK, yeah, like you said, fully baked Dave. I think that's that's right. OK, yes, right. So we had someone simple trick lore that came about with these. Let's see, is this from the stream or the Actually, I guess it's both. They really blended together some of the stream conversation as well as the podcast.

22:56 Again, thank you Krista makes for having Will on. That was like a fascinating hour. I hope he comes back and talks about other. Songs absolutely fantastic it. Was really, really, really brilliant just to quickly jump in with. It was primarily a discussion about the song Scoundrels really dissecting it the musically like. Bar by bar. And lyric by lyric, it was fascinating. It was a little bit geeky at times for me, but I totally ate it up, enjoyed it and I would love to hear the whole album done that way, pulled apart. Absolutely for me, as I've said on the last one, I don't always go in depth into lyrics. You 2 have gone in depth with lyrics so listening and recording the last pod of ours about Scoundrels Scoundrels is one of my favourites, but listening to you 2 dissects it that way.

23:56 Listening to them to dissect it that way. Fabulous, absolutely fantastic. Loved it to put both in together. Loved. It it was very cool and it seems to be what he does as a podcast host. So it makes me curious to listen to other episodes and and check them out for sure. I've subscribed and so I don't want to don't want to miss him. Link could be on the website. Yes, it's a really cool concept for a podcast. I dig it. Moving along to the OST lore, it wasn't meant to be a concept album, but kind of ended up being a inimitable writing procedure. I like that he's the word that I only knew for the first time from Hamilton.

24:43 Of course, we know Wilbur's a Hamilton fan, so he's added that to his vocabulary. Repertoire, right? I thought it was interesting too, because and I, I tried, I tried to find the exact interview this morning, but I couldn't find it. There was an interview back from 2023, I think it was later in the year, where Will talked about that he wanted the next album to be a concept album. And this was before 1 Simple Trick was, as far as we know, even a twinkle in their eye. I think it's interesting that they went from wanting the next album to be a concept album to then coming out with one simple Trick and then curving back around to revisiting the concept album. I'm really excited to hear how it turns out.

25:25 Now. Obviously we have a wild wait, but now this. Goes this goes to say a couple of podcasts or ago, I said to you folks, if we didn't have one simple trick and the situation didn't happen, what album would we get? Now he's already said he's writing a concept album. Are some of those from what he should have got? Well, you know, it's interesting during during the stream he mentioned that all of the One Simple Trick songs were written in that room that he streamed from. You know, the room with the big mural, the Anvil cat skull mural, that seems to be their studio. I know that it had Animal.

26:13 Yeah, yeah. It has like a demo recording booth and stuff. So you start to wonder, OK, well, if if you really want to get into the weeds, how long have they had this place? When did they start writing it? Because I think that's what we've talked about before, is when were some of these songs on One Simple Trick written? Were they older or were they just written, you know? They've had that. Space few years. For a good while. Like, oh, because Mark, it's been a while. Drum covers from there. Yeah, that's correct. Yeah, that's right. Drum covers from in there. I love the Arctic Monkeys five O 5 cover, Yeah. So definitely they've had it for a bit, yeah. Carrying on, Will's the synth player on the record, but he says he has no idea what he's doing. In fact, he said that messing around on the synth for the demo ended up they end up using that those recordings on the actual album because to recreate it would have been difficult. Time consuming.

27:08 Yes, so it makes me wonder what they do on tour then with the keyboardist doing it I guess. Somebody in the music business that's there would be able to listen to that track and go, this is this. Replicate it. This is called blah blah blah. Do you know what I mean? Right. And somebody that knows what they're doing, yeah. Exactly. Not us. Unlike us, Orwell, apparently. Yeah, yeah. He also mentioned that only a couple songs have a trumpet focused more on the synth of this time as compared to their other songs and albums. And they recorded at Ali Chance Studio in Bristol who played a major part in the production of OST and its signature sound.

27:57 Gave him a lot of credit. But he did say for the next concept album, they were going to probably go in a different direction just to try other Yeah. Most bands do though, don't they? They you know. Yeah. You know, sometimes they'll go back to whoever in a few years time because that's the sound that they want. Yeah, sounds cool to me. I. Thought it was interesting because I know there's been some discussion on the interwebs about some people have criticized the production saying that it feels very sparse. But during this Krista Makes podcast, Chris actually said that he really liked Ali's production because he said it feels genuine. It feels real.

28:44 It feels like you guys, you're a four piece band that could just go to a pub and plug in and play a gig. Yeah, I love that. I really did. But I also don't understand the sparse bit because to me there's so much texture. I feel like there's so many layers. Yeah. Absolutely. I'm a, I'm a, I've never used anything. But to me, I'd feel like every time you listen, or if you have headphones on, like Angie we've talked about before, you hear all the little things in the background, like voices. Sometimes you didn't even realize were there. So I don't really get the sparse bit. But I do like the idea of what he said about, yeah, this four piece band, like not being overproduced is a quality these days.

29:27 So I like that. You know that they're going to plug in and you are going to hear OST as you kind of heard it. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. For sure. All right. So you 2 love scoundrels. That's been your one of your top favourites from the album, both of you have said in previous episodes. So I welcome you to do the, you know, take over the Scoundrels discussion from the Christa Makes podcast. He basically said it was about the Internet and about social media. At this point, do I turn around and say BS? I think it's much more deeper than that, but I think he was holding back to be.

30:10 Kind of surface. Yeah, polite. I think most of us fans kind of know. I'm not going to say who, but what it's about. And that sort of little bit was a little bit. Oh, come on, tell us. Give us some more. Don't just skim across the surface. Yeah. Don't play it so safe, but yeah, kind of needs to absolutely. Yeah, yeah, I get it. You know, bounce around online and on the on my master. Get it painfully wrong. Yeah, although I was thinking about it today, it was like one of my shower thoughts was, I was wondering if ever he reads or hears our theories and thinks I actually like that better than what I wrote it for.

31:03 Yeah, and not just our theories. Is that? Yeah. Am I like egotistical thinking that? No, I just think maybe he's like, wow, that's really. Clever. If that ever happens, I hope we find out somehow, because I would die. Because doesn't he always say that fans usually get it painfully wrong? Like he said it in very kind of loving sort of way. Like, I love you guys even if you get my lyrics painfully and correct something. So like, it'd be nice to know that we actually got it right for once. Right. Did we get it right or did he like our version of back story? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

31:44 That'd be even better. Just saying. I love what he said about, I guess you call it the outro where it feels like it's pent out, like, like something needs to burst. You know where he starts with. What's it even mean to be accepted? Yeah, I thought that was really cool because that's exactly what it feels like. So it's just neat for him to put that into words. Yeah, that's my favorite part of the song. It's not not one of my top favorite songs on the album, but once it gets to that part, I'm like, oh, OK, yeah, yeah, yeah, this is that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love this part, but I love that part. I could just listen to that part over and. Over again how?

32:25 Can it not be one of your top three songs I. Love top three songs? That's what makes us all you need. It's it's like when you look on Reddit and they go, oh, what's your favorite from OST six months down the line? How are you thinking? And they're like, oh, I like this song. I like that song. And I'm thinking, where the hell is Scoundrels and Monochrome? They're quality, you know. What it is I think if I had to pick favorite lyrics from the whole album, they would not get the. Favorite song, not lyrics. Those lyrics are like my favorite lyrics on the album, but not top songs. Top song no, but I would never skip.

33:07 I never skip any songs I listened all the way through all the way through every time I. Must admit I do. I still can't get my head brown Why people like Perfect Blue? But then this is exactly it. Everybody's different, we all like different things. So I understand if Perfect Blue was your top song. It's not for me, but it is for them. But you know, Scoundrel should be up there in your top three. It's always, it's always interesting. Yeah, the tier list that people come up with, they have death box at the bottom. I'm like, what? What? Anyway. I liked what Will said too about he talks about Joe and how Joe carries some of the light higher melodies in Scoundrels, which I think sometimes, although Joe has definitely had more of an opportunity to shine on OST which I love. Definitely.

34:04 It's it's really cool of him to point that out on Scoundrels, because that's not something that I might have picked up on my own. I say I I don't know much about music, Joe. You're you do it all. You're rock. Star, I feel like he's a diamond in the rough now. We starting to starting to get revealed, right? Yeah, he's like a. Singer. Band. Because he doesn't look like a rock star. There's a lot of indie bands over the years that you, you look at them and you think, OK, you're very middle class out of university. You dress like this. He doesn't even dress like the middle class university rock star. He's just got his little coat on, you know, turn up jeans and and that's it.

34:53 Yeah, he doesn't he look. Like a rock star, but it's exactly what you said and he's. He's just a guy. He's just a guy in his car heart and he loves his beer and he loves his football. Yeah, but but underneath all that, he is a rock God. Yeah, You know, you look at Ash, he dresses like a rock star. You look at some of these rock stars out there, they dress like rock stars all the time, you know? And the other fun part just to wrap up the scoundrels discussion was the screaming section right before the outro Will said it was. He was in the studio late at night just screaming from one side of the studio into the room mic.

35:37 I wish I could have. I wish I could have been a family on the wall. That would have been great, yeah. And I hope he doesn't have, you know, nearby neighbors hear him screaming. Oh, but soundproof. I was surprised at the amount of really good info that we got from his stream and from the podcast that he did with Krista makes. Once you kind of drill down a little bit, there is some good juicy stuff in here and it's. Yeah, especially with the stream, because you would think maybe you wouldn't talk so much about the Lovejoy stuff. He'd focus more just on the Geo guesser and, you know, silly chitchat kind of stuff.

36:19 That was fun. For me personally, thank goodness, because you know, I'm a big fan of Lego. But for me to sit and watch a person build Lego, many people do it. I'd rather watch paint dry. But you're also not the demographic of the average love. I get that, absolutely. I I totally get that. But I'm glad we got a lot of information across both as a as a Lovejoy fan, yeah. We got info beyond the EP regarding their next album, which we've touched on already. Lovejoy's in the process of writing a concept album, technically a rock opera, which I'm a huge fan of Tommy, so hearing the words rock. Opera.

37:01 Exciting. Yeah, rock opera. I immediately thought of Black Parade. So that was that's kind of my of. Course you did. My faves. Let's see future touring, he said. There's a few songs from Wake Up and it's over. He wants to start playing again. Warsaw is great Consequences, Golden Hour somewhere. When asked if they'd ever torched Scandinavia, Will said Italy and Scandinavia, such a long stretch, long thin countries with large spaces between the population centres means you've got a lot of travel time and that cuts back. If they could afford it, they would do it, but it's it makes it tricky for touring.

37:41 Unfortunately, I. Fully understand that unless you've got a couple of capitals which you can dart across and zig zig zag thing down then it could potentially work. But I understand that. Oh, and Dave, we didn't, we forgot to touch on it. The those that turned out for Poland and Turkey, quite a few travelled far distances. Blew my mind again, you know, and I believe it's the same person, but at the London show, a girl flew in from Hungary.

38:24 A girl flew in from Hungary to Poland. Somebody flew in from the UK to Poland. When some were like trains, I I don't know if there's. One between the sweat. Things but. Did I hear 17 Hour Journey truly have dedicated fans? Yeah. And to get to see your favorite band in these smaller venues, to have these meet and greets, these VIP options, Yeah. I mean, I could have hopped on a plane quite locally, flown into Warsaw quite cheaply. I could have done the whole thing quite cheaply. I've still been a few £100 for the pod.

39:05 It was my birthday. Even. Better. Right. No brainer. And then I'd have my daughter. Can I come? No. Why can't I come? Because you've got school. Well, then you're not going. Poor child deprived that one, yeah. Yeah, as all our kids are. She doesn't do her homework. She will be. But I'm bumped, all right? I asked if they'd come back to Australia. Oh man, what do you mean 100%? That's not even a maybe. Like as long as Lovejoy is around or we're coming to Australia. Now that's a trip Angie and I won't be able to make because I think that's definitely cross prohibitive.

39:49 Yep, don't look at me either. That's stupid amounts of time on a plane, stupid amounts of money on a plane. I've got family in Sydney which cuts that's the cost down. Yeah. Yeah, but no, I might drive around the UK for a couple, but. All right, solo career And do you want to touch on what we're talking about, oh, solo career prospects? During his stream, he divulged that he is hoping to release a solo album in the big year of 2026. He says he's got some songs written and somebody's asked are they going to be sad?

40:31 He's like, no, not really. He said again, just like with Mammalian Sign Reflex that it would just drop without any fanfare, no real promotion or just there it is. So I guess we'll keep our eyes peeled. Yes, you know we will be. And then he played a song that might make it on the album All. I can say is thank goodness I'd turn it off by then, otherwise I would have listened to a Wilbur solo track. Oh no, not without you, your face being recorded. I know. So I haven't actually heard that and I know you put it on the socials. I just liked it and moved along.

41:14 I don't know if I put that one on the socials. I just put Jubilee line. I guess I should be. Putting Jubilee line then you didn't put the other one on. Oh, but you shouldn't have heard Jubilee line either. I hear clips because you scroll through the what is it the tick tock and you hear clips and it's like. In case any mirror. Listen to a full song. If you're a new listener, it's because we are in the works or to to have a Dave Reacts series on YouTube. Dave reacts to Wilbur solo songs because he's not very familiar with any or most of them. The only song I've ever heard was E Girl, which was played to me.

41:55 I've like I say, I've heard clips. That's it. Sometimes I play that one on repeat like 20 times. I just just get in one of these moods. I just have to, I don't know what to say. Alrighty then. Yeah, moving along. General Lovejoy info the live shows have no supplemental pre recorded tracks. All the sound you hear is just them and they but they you do use a quick track. Is that that thing that like keeps them like like the meter? Is that what they mean? OK. Yeah, I think so. Which I found crazy that that's like what they hear in their ears during the show. Isn't that wild? Like, you hear that clicking in their ears the whole time? Yeah. It would get annoying bad. Enough for me to listen to you 2 for an hour, let alone have a clicking going on. Yeah, right.

42:38 Can you imagine Will sometimes uses a vocal hiccup is how Krista makes referred to it as scoundrels Normal people things. I love when he does that. I have to admit, when I first heard it in normal people things, I thought it was kind of weird. But now I love it and I sing along with the songs doing it too that little like whatever they call it slide. He called it a vocal slide. I love in the normal people things video where he does that Someone Like You and then he somehow raises one of his eyebrows like he's totally it's like frozen except he just raises one eyebrow. You I can't do it but.

43:21 You kind of do it. It's like, whoa, you. Yeah, they're. But yeah, he says. He says the band. I don't. Know if he's? Yeah. Yeah, he says the band doesn't like when he does that and. I was like, he wants to let they don't want to see. He'd sprinkle them in, but not don't overdo. But I I enjoy it. I think it's fun. Yeah, absolutely. I do too. Just another thing with scoundrels we wanted to touch on was the ending of the song. Just let's go back before we finish up that podcast interview discussion, the end of the song A scoundrels all I'll ever. And we thought he was going to say all over B, but he says because he doesn't finish the line. But Ang, what did he say on the podcast was what is the missing word there?

44:23 He said it was no all I'll ever know KNOW. Which kind of pulled my mind. I was like, what? Yes, because I can't hear that like being sung either. Like can't either. It doesn't like to me, it doesn't flow. But that's because I always filled in the blank with B. In my brain I know. Or maybe, maybe in his mind he says it like at the end of White Shark Cafe, where it's like. No, just that loud. Kind of. Cross my mind, yeah. Yeah. Oh, maybe you don't put it in the other one instead of that one. I mean, you don't want 2 songs that ended with the same sounding word. Yeah.

45:07 I don't know, I don't know. I don't know, it threw me off too. It did. It did. So that makes me think, how much other crap do we get wrong? We got that one word wrong. Oh wait, do you know what? All of it. How many times, how many times have we been like this week we're going to get something this week, we're going to no, no, let's not record. I can't. Do it anymore I can't. The following week. Anymore, I can't go on live on Instagram or TikTok anymore and say, guys, tomorrow is Tuesday, it's going to be something. Friday it's going to be something. No, I can't do it anymore. One of these times will be right, so we just keep saying it and eventually we'll be right.

45:50 Wasn't like a clock. A broken clock is wrong, right? Twice. Two times a day, yes. That's. Us, once again, we know nothing for sure. Personally, Wilbur mentioned. He's sort of split between living in New York and England. He's always wanted to live in New York and spent spending some time there hasn't been enjoying it, so he's sort of sees himself going back and forth, which is good for me and good for Dave and Angela. Just have to pick one. Closer to you, Ange. I guess. I'll just hopefully you'll both be on a plane when he flies to UK so you can sit next to him. Oh gosh, I'm sure that's exactly what. He wants.

46:38 Sitting next, yeah. Yeah, I'm sure he would. Love that I'm sure he's would rather be like unknown on the plane. So anyway, to finish up this episode of the pod, we thought we would start a new segment because why not an episode 21? We've received some really great reviews since the start and we've acknowledged, I think we did in the beginning days, some of them that we've gotten, but we sort of have enjoyed them on our own without mentioning them on here. And so we felt it would be nice to acknowledge and thank those that have gone to the trouble of leaving us reviews. And please, I hope this inspires some more and to leave your ratings for Spotify, the five stars, if you like it, if you like us.

47:31 So I just wanted to pull out some reviews. These are probably like the last 100 days or so. You don't get a million reviews, but the ones we do get are warm our hearts. So Bug on Spotify said These podcasts have been making my work day so much easier. Great work as always. That is awesome. It does. It's lovely because, you know, sometimes some of us don't always see them straight away or whatever and and we just post it across time difference and you kind of wake up and you think, oh, that's lovely. And then you sort of go in and and then convert. You know what I mean? It's lovely. Yeah. Joe Joanna I love watching these, they always make my day. Keep it up with a hedgehog emoji. So sweet.

48:20 That's very cute. And I think I, I think I met Joanna, if this is the right Joanna at Summerfest and if this is the right Joanna. Joanna, you are super sweet and thank you for leaving the review and I'm really glad that I got to meet you. Oh, that's nice. There's another one here from Sky. Sky says. The intro from the boys still makes me so happy. My heart, it makes us so happy too. Thank you for. I know. Thank you for saying that, Sky. You know, the other day in my car, I like I was listening to something and ended and then our podcast came on the radio and all of a sudden I hear Hello love enjoyers.

49:01 I was like, whoa, it like took me a second. I was like, oh, that's us. That's our show. That's cool. It doesn't get old, AJ on Spotify wrote. I've been waiting for this episode. I can't wait for the new songs and everything that Lovejoy is working on. Keep up the work. Good work guys. That was regarding the new with EP songs. So thank you AJ. Nice, thank you, Amy said cool intro fire podcast, but then I love that short and sweet cool intro fire podcast. I will take that. Thank you so much, Amy. That's awesome. Yeah, I'm frog kid on YouTube. Decided to watch this while having a breakdown in the bathroom.

49:48 I am now smiling from ear to ear. I'm glad we've done that for you. I'm glad we could help. Like really, thank you for like taking the moment to even tell us that even though you're having a tough time. And I'm glad that we helped you, like get you out of it a bit in our own way. That means so much. That's yeah, that's thank you for thank you for letting us know that we feel special. Yeah, and if you want to be featured, leave us a review. Yeah just a couple more milkshake V7 S Whoa, love this Lovejoy nation podcast. Also Banjo Stig 67.

50:32 So glad you guys used it as the intro. It was so cool seeing a post on Instagram a few weeks ago. Why am I not surprised we'll messed it up to begin with? LMAO that's awesome. I just love it. So thanks guys. It really means a lot to us and thanks as always for listening and we hope that we have news in the coming soon's like big news. We are due for some big, big news. Maybe 8? See you on the social, see you online. Take care. Bye, guys. Ciao. Bye.