12. 3 Simple Reactions to One Simple Trick

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Hello and welcome to the Lovejoy
Nation Podcast.

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Hello, this is episode 12 of the
Lovejoy Nation podcast.

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We are very excited today to
discuss One Simple Trick,

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Lovejoy's full length debut
album that just dropped October

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3rd.
We're going to go through the

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songs.
We took notes as we heard them

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for the first time.
But first, let's do what we

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always do and check in and see
what everyone's been up to since

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the last episode.
Me, absolutely nothing, quite

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frankly, apart from listening to
a certain album that's.

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You always say it so cheekily.
Went to a certain gig, Yeah,

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listen to a certain album.
You notice that?

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Well, I don't want to give
anything.

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I met a certain person, never
know if you're telling the truth

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or not.
It's cheeky.

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You can't help it, but it's I've
been up to literally just

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working.
Nothing exciting whatsoever.

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Which is sad, I guess.
Yeah.

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What about you, Ange?
Been up to anything?

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Same.
I haven't done anything.

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I've not done anything.
I've been kind of obsessed with

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making bracelets for tour, but
that's about as exciting as it

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gets, other than immersing
myself in this album, so yeah.

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Yeah, I'm boring.
Yeah, that's it.

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We've we've all had some
homework which we've all kind of

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done so.
Yeah, we've assigned ourself

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lots of homework.
I'm very behind on the

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bracelets, I think I mean too.
So you use bigger beads though,

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So mine take longer, Yes.
Yeah, mine are chunky.

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I did do a few things in this
last week.

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It was a bit a bit busy.
Went to the New York Ren Fair.

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That was fun and expensive.
Do it every year.

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It's always the same for good
thing, but it's a must do in our

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family.
But the next day was like super

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cool because I got to go to a
taping for some mysterious Ed

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Sheeran something or other that
is quite a mystery.

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His people had him all over New
York City on Subways, Highline,

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on the streets, in a pub, at a
the Hammerstein Ballroom, and

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they recorded him playing
different songs on his guitar in

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each place.
And so my best friend and I got

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to, we got the lucky space of
being in a pub with like 30

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people free drinks, 5 feet away
from Ed Sheeran playing Galway

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Girl on his guitar with an Irish
folk band that's apparently big

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in in and of themselves.
So that was super neat.

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They recorded their two days in
a row, so I hope they use our

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cut and not the others.
Or maybe mix them up.

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But at least I'll know that we
were there for for it.

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So that was neat.
But the poor guy looked

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exhausted.
He just just like non-stop.

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But he said he is like one of
the neatest things he's ever

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done and he can't wait for us
all to see it.

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So excited for that.
Even though it's not Lovejoy

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news, I thought it was cool news
to share.

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That's really cool.
So you don't know yet what

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exactly it's going to be.
There's rumors of it being for a

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documentary for Netflix.
Camila Cobeo, if I'm pronouncing

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her name correctly, was part of
it.

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There's a really cool Mercedes
parked on the street on a Dolly

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with a camera on a truck in
front of it and actually got to

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see him and her hop in and it be
pulled down the street so it

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looked like she was driving.
He was the passenger and he had

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his guitar, so I don't know what
that means, but only in New

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York.
It was neat.

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It was cool.
I'm glad we did it.

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Probably Carpool Karaoke or
something of that form.

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I was thinking that, but not
with her.

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I don't know.
So maybe they did a collab.

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Maybe it's just showing like a
day in his life in New York

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City, like being crazy on the
streets.

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It was neat to see all the
videos on TikTok where people

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were like literally on my lunch
break where I always go on the

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Highline and friggin Ed
Sheeran's doing a concert all of

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a sudden on the street or
they're taking the subway and

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they see him playing.
It's just rad to date myself.

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Only in New York City.
Wow.

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Yeah, super, super close.
Fingers crossed it they take or

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have your take.
All right, shall we dig in?

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I just thought it'd be
interesting to hear how each of

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you experienced the album the
first time.

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Like, how did you go about like,
All right, and I'm going to

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listen to it.
I stayed up until it was

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midnight my time and I, I took
my Beats headphones and turned

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on Spotify and just, I played it
all the way through cool and

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just, it was dark and I just sat
and listened.

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Immersed in it?
Yep, and.

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What was your very first initial
thoughts?

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Because I'm sure there were some
songs where you thought.

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I knew that this album was going
to be good, but I was not

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expecting to be completely
bowled over, gobsmacked, blown

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away.
I knew it was going to be great,

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but it honestly has exceeded my
expectations, and my

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expectations were high.
There's a lot of really

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experimental stuff in here, I
think.

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Yeah, which is good.
There's a lot of math rock type

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beats and riffs.
It makes me wonder if they've

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been playing some Delta Sleep
while they were in the studio or

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whatever.
I absolutely am thrilled with

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the album.
I think it's an absolute

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masterpiece.
Dave, how about you?

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How did you first hear God?
You're just not going to be your

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girl sitting on the toilet.
That face may sort of seem that

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way.
Maybe we we don't need the

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details.
Yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, first heard 95% the album
at the gig, however.

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Yeah, yeah.
However, Death Box I went

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straight to because I'd never
heard it.

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Makes sense?
So I went straight to death box.

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Listen to that.
Then I I had the album on.

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I had earphones in, but I'm
making sandwiches.

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I'm washing up, getting
breakfast, we're doing all the

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day-to-day chores.
He'd come later on in the

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evening, sat down, earphones in
and listen to it fully again.

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You know, I'd heard it at the
gig, but there was a couple of

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songs where they start another
thought, Oh yeah, this was a

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good song.
And then to be able to hear it

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again, studio quality, it's
like, yes, really like that.

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Because am I right in thinking
you had to wait virtually all

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day as well?
I did I and it's funny because I

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took a lunch break just sitting
in my car that day on Friday and

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I was like, I could be listening
to this right now.

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I have an hour since my daughter
brought me into the Lovejoy

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world.
I felt it only appropriate to

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listen to the album together,
even if she didn't care one way

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or another how or when she was
going to hear it.

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But I just wanted to share that
with her.

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So yeah, the plan was to to
listen to it right after we got

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home from work and school.
But then they're always starving

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because we all get home
4:00-ish.

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And so I'm like, you know what,
let me make dinner, get that out

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of the way, cleaned up, eat
early, and then we can just sit

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and relax and listen.
So that's what we did.

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And I had my little notebook out
and my pencil, and we actually

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listened to it differently than
you 2 Not earbuds.

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Sat in my living room, put it on
YouTube and saw the visualizers

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for each song, which is cool
because it has the lyrics, so it

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helped to hear it and see the
words at the same time.

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And we did skip the songs.
That and the singles that have

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already come out.
Yeah.

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Baptism had a new music video,
so that was neat.

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And then just.
Yeah, watching and listening

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that way.
So that's how I did.

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It was probably around 6:00 on
Friday PM.

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So yeah, I feel like it's kind
of crazy that I'd be the one of

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the last people in the Phantom
to listen to it, but.

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On the planet.
On the planet like.

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Literally, that was worth it.
Worth the wait, It's like waited

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this long, I can wait a few more
hours it's fine.

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Yeah, and what do we all before
we delve date, what do we think

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of the video?
Oh my God.

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So we're talking about the video
for baptism, which just, yes,

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released on Friday as well.
And I guess that's a new single.

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We can we can dig down into this
on another episode, but just

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initial thoughts.
Yeah, initial thought was a holy

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smoke scene.
Well, like that, so different.

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Oh my God, it was fun.
It was a lot of fun.

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And clever as usual.
I was watching Ash and Mark

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trying to hawk those VHS tapes
was hilarious.

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I kind of feel like Ash would
probably actually be the world's

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worst sales person.
I feel like he would just get

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sick of it and just give up and
start giving them away just so

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he could be done.
Like, I just can't see it.

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But it was really interesting to
see the contrast between how

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Pastor Gold was, you know, kind
of like rage preaching to his

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followers.
And then in his dressing room

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behind the scenes, you can see
he's starting to fall apart

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mentally and maybe even
experiencing a bit of psychosis

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is is what I took from it.
But.

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Oh man, we could go so deep on
this, but we are not today

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there's.
A lot.

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Not today, we can't.
We can't.

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I thought it was another great
video.

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I have to ask you, did he have
false teeth?

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In I was just like thinking that
his tan.

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Brought out the teeth.
Brought out he'll he does have

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like perfect nice teeth.
I think it's just what I thought

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made-up.
That's yeah, that's fine.

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Yeah, that was my thought too.
And plus, he was making funny

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faces with them, you know, So
he's.

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I'm doing my best impression.
Yeah.

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So.
It was so it was so like he late

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he's.
Coded.

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Yeah.
He must have had the yeah, the

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best time doing that.
And what an actor Wilbur is.

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My goodness, who knew?
Well, we now know from all these

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videos.
But.

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And Congrats.
Kudos again to noisy act for for

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this amazing masterpiece.
I keep getting better each one.

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Yeah, yeah.
Dave, speaking to Noisy Act, I

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think I see some familiar
graphics on your door there.

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What exactly do you have cooking
there?

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What I see one of them, but
maybe there's two.

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Yeah, they're both there.
When I go big, they're both

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there.
Oh, OK, yeah, when we see like

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just you on the screen.
That is Mr. Snuffles of course,

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and that is what the hell is
Nauseac and let's just say their

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screen used from the videos.
You're so fancy.

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Wow.
Very cool, Dave.

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I'm envious for sure.
Yes, so is my daughter.

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She's not allowed to have them.
She's just just to come in and

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enjoy them in your in your room.
Exactly.

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Nice.
That's so cool.

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Very cool.
Very, very nice.

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I can photocopy them for you,
fold them into a paper plane and

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send them across if.
You well, that'd be that'd be so

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thoughtful of you.
Thanks, David.

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They might get a little wet, but
thanks for the thought.

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Yeah.
Maybe a in a bottle.

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Roll them up in a glass bottle.
I'm right by the Jersey Shore.

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I can hook.
I've got a.

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Plastic bottle.
Somebody'll find it in the

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ocean.
And they'll really be.

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What the hell is a noisiac?
Oh, man.

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OK, let's get to baptism.
All right, Let's start at the

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start.
We're talking about the song.

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We're not talking about the
video.

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We already did that.
First impressions.

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I hope we all took your notes.
Dave.

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Did you take notes, like I said,
or just mental notes?

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Good boy.
OK.

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They're not clear.
Well, they're as clear as mud.

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I can understand them.
I know we spoke about having

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perhaps 3 words, but I can't
always do 3 words.

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I know I sort of wrote like
jumbled, like a bunch of so

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there's no I figured just at
least at the very least have 3,

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right?
Yeah, baptism.

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Ha.
I love that part.

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It totally caught me off guard.
But I was like, I love this.

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Yeah.
And then of course, it starts

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out.
That song starts out with that

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classic, amazing Ash Kobosu bass
line that has become just like

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this trademark of Lovejoy.
And I was just like, yes, we are

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back.
We are so back.

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Sorry.
Now I'm getting excited.

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Nice, you always notice the
bass.

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I think that God.
I can see her being a thing at a

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gig, do you know what I mean?
If they play baptism I can

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really see.
I'd love to see that as the

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whole crowd ha.
Yeah.

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Oh, I'm going to do it.
I don't care if anybody else

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does.
Oh yeah, that's.

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Again, that's if they play it,
yeah.

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Moments like that in these
songs, yes.

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My first word I wrote down for
this song was haunting darker, I

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said.
It reminded me of a darker

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normal people things for some
reason, I wrote.

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I have deep and dark written
down.

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I wrote that it was a bop
because that's like a big point

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for me is like Angie needs her,
her heavy bass.

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I need my bop.
I need to be able to bop to it

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at my desk.
And it was a bop.

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And I did have to let you guys
know that.

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I don't think it's plagiarism,
but it when he says Blood in the

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Water, because my husband's such
a big Dave Matthews Band fan and

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I've seen him 1000 times in
concert hearing Blood in the

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Water.
There's Dave Matthews song Don't

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Drink the Water.
There's Blood in the Water, they

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say at the end.
So yeah, I, I kept thinking of

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that, just that that's where
I've heard that before.

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So I wrote that down.
I love, I love bridge where it's

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just all of a sudden switches up
and you get that Math Rocky kind

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of vibe going.
And then hello, Joe Goldsmith.

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Joe Goldsmith, you are a
freaking rock star, man.

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Oh my.
Gosh, Oh my God, that's so good.

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And you know what, I think it
takes a really confident and a

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really sort of altruistic front
man to let another band member

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have the vocal spotlight like
that for a little bit.

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So I think that tells you
something about Will's

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character.
Just saying.

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And I think it also helps
preserve Will's voice to not do

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the screaming right.
Yeah, same thing with foxholes.

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So cuz Can you imagine the
number that would do if you had

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to do the whole time?
But yeah, he got to shine and I

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was happy for him.
And even in the music video,

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even though the freaky eyes
freaked me out, I don't like

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that.
So good and I love they.

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Another thing I noticed about
the album is there's a lot of

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vocal layers in these songs, and
this was one of those that

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towards the end had a lot of
texture in the vocals.

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Yeah.
And I wrote that he dies again.

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He's always like fainting,
dying, falling.

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That's what that.
You know what?

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Yes, I was.
I was wondering.

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Sorry, that's not the video.
Yeah, Yeah, yeah.

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That's OK.
I actually wanted to listen to

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the song without seeing the
video.

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I said to my daughter, let's
just listen to it first and then

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do the video.
But they didn't put a visualizer

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for that one that used the
video.

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So yeah, do both together.
Anything else to add for

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baptism?
Love it.

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I really love it too.
Yeah, I do too.

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It was probably the one for me
that had to grow a bit more, had

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to listen to it a few more times
to think.

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I think so.
Too.

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Oh my God.
And I don't know whether it's

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because it's at the beginning of
the album and there's songs that

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Click to me and it was like, oh,
and then you kind of forget

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about it.
So it just needed to take that

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little bit longer to listen
again, listen again.

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Yeah, I feel like in general,
that's just how I am with songs.

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I did write that for a couple
other ones that doubt now going

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back, I'm like, what?
I'm so good.

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So yeah, I see that.
And especially because it got so

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much attention on the Reddit, a
lot of people saying baptism was

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a favorite.
So I was like, I really need to

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see what it is about it and then
and not be tainted by the video

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because the video is so freaking
good and fun.

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Yeah.
The title is like, how are you

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going to sing a song with that
title?

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That is bizarre.
So I was thinking.

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I noticed that was one of the
few songs that doesn't have a

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really big change between the
BPM in the verse and the chorus.

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A lot of these other songs, like
we've talked about before when

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we've heard the snippets, the
chorus sounds a lot different

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than the rest of the song once
we get it, and this one felt

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pretty steady throughout, which
was different kind of from a lot

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of the other songs, I thought.
But I love it.

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I've got simple sort of written
down.

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I think it's quite a a simple
song.

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Again like you say, it's just it
flows, goes through the drums

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was simple.
There was nothing to but I

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thought it was a really nice
song.

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Again, different from baptism,
but I really enjoyed.

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It what was your reaction to
big?

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Because I died like, no, I'm
big.

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I was.
Like I just.

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Cracked up.
Yeah.

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I was like, wait, what?
And then you start thinking, OK,

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are we going to get any more of
this?

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You kind of wait for it in the
other songs, don't you?

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Yeah.
And then, well, even the next

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time he says no, I'm you're
like, are you going?

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To say he.
Didn't say yes.

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Yes, damn it.
There was one line in here that

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I thought was like super well,
there was a couple obviously,

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but there one of the few lines I
thought was super interesting

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was we act like AB positive,
sickening me, never need to give

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and universally received.
So, Will, if you're listening to

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this, which you probably aren't,
you made me do so much research

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last night, and I've learned all
kinds of random things just

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because of your lyrics.
Leslie, do you have that down?

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What did you have?
That I may be positive.

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Really.
Yeah.

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And I was like, yeah, I'm the
universal recipient or whatever.

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And then, yeah, So I thought
that was funny.

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So I did write that down.
When I caught that, I was like.

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Yeah.
But am I right in saying that

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it's universal recipient, right?
Like you can get any sort of

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blood type if you need a blood
transfusion.

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And that was super, Yeah.
They like your this blood type

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for giving plasma, which I tried
to do once but my veins are too

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small.
But I give blood anyway.

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But yeah, good.
Yeah.

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So I thought that was cool.
The other thing shout out to me.

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Yeah, right.
Yeah.

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That was, that was, that was,
that was you.

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He had you in mind.
I was afraid you were going to

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say I may be positive like
course you are.

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But I don't even know a blood
type.

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I am the other discussion.
It is the other line.

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I had like I racked my brain
looking for this and once I

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found a meaning I was like Yep,
that's it.

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I've been chasing flour.
I thought that was a weird one.

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Did you think he was talking
about baking flour when you

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heard it and not see the word
flour when you cause the visual

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says the visualizer says.
So I did a bunch of searching,

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went down a bunch of rabbit
holes, and then I found this.

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It's an Asian pop culture kind
of term.

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And I, yeah, it's, it's a
definition.

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It says a man chasing flowers as
seen as someone who flirts

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widely, seeks attention from
many women or pursues

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relationships without
commitment.

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And I feel like that kind of
ties in because once I listen to

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the song a few times, I feel
like it's kind of about being

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bored, being numb, like you're
flicking through your social

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media and you're just sick of it
all, you know, nothing left to

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find and only shit left to see.
Like I need something I haven't

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felt before.
Like he's just and chasing

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flower, quote UN quote is one of
the ways that this character is

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trying to like get that next
high or get, you know, to feel

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something.
So maybe I'm way off, way off,

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but I felt like that really.
That I dig when he says I could

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spend the weekend watching shark
videos and it would feel better

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than what did he say?
I think I'd missed.

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Wrote a word, didn't write a
word, he says.

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You.
I thought it was shock videos.

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You know what?
You know what?

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It's one of those.
It's sort of like Pearl Jam

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violins.
Violins in my head.

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Do you know what I'm talking
about?

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Yeah, he wrote shock videos in
the visualizer, but it's Shark

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Cafe.
And then I'm thinking shark.

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We can possibly.
Yeah, it's probably shark or

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shock.
But when I I looked at the

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visualizer and I was really
surprised that it said shock.

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I'm like, that's a shock.
There's no way that word is is

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in shock.
It's shark.

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That's what it has to be, Shark.
OK, and it would feel better

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than the thought of you.
My God, I love that.

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I love that part.
He's really playing around with

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those deeper tones in his voice
on this album, isn't he?

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Yeah.
He's really, I love it, strong.

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Totally finding his range.
Yes.

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Say it, man.
Say it.

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Say what we all want to say.
He sounds very confident.

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Yeah.
Cathartic.

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Yeah.
Love it.

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And I just love how that's the
only sound you hear.

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There's no music.
There's nothing.

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Just you.
It's like, OK, dig that.

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That was my note perfect blue.
Having said previously that I

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missed it during the gig.
For good reason.

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This is my least favorite the.
Heck out of town.

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What?
It's so pretty.

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Maybe that's why it's too pretty
for you, Dave.

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I'd rather listen to all the
others than Perfect Blue at this

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stage in time.
I hear you.

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I know it could all change in a
week when you listen to it 100

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times more.
Exactly.

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I haven't really got anything
written down for it apart from

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it's OK.
Least favorite?

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Wow, so I mean, true to its name
it there.

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That riff is like straight up
Blues rock.

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I was trying to think it reminds
me so much of this old song.

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So again, last night I was
digging and digging and digging.

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Thanks, Will.
And I found it.

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It's a song by Cream.
It's an Eric Clapton riff.

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It's called Strange Brute, and
it is kind of similar to the

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riff in Perfect Blue.
So I'm like, OK, that kind of

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fits.
Like it's not the same and it's

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just like a little bit similar,
but that's what it reminds me

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of.
And I feel like the song is

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super mysterious.
I need to know who is Perfect

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Blue?
Who is Perfect Blue?

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Tell me, I want to know.
And I make and my Oh, and my

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daughter said we should watch
the anime movie Perfect Blue

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that Ash, you know, showed
pictures of when teasing the

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songs and album.
I think she's seen it before.

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But yeah, I would check it.
I think Angie, you said you saw

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it.
Yeah.

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It's very good.
Do you think it relates to?

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Film or not really.
What's that?

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Do you think it relates to the
song or not really at all?

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Not really.
I mean, maybe it could a little

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bit, but I didn't see any like
immediate ties, but OK.

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Yeah, but Will's voice is so
smooth in this song.

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You can really, you can really
tell how far he's come as a

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vocalist.
I put a Yeah, it's really.

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Different the other songs.
Bop from the start.

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That's an important one.
Pretty.

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I love when he twists words,
phrases or sentences around from

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what you expect he's going to
say to the opposite.

453
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:08,560
Sort of like a perfume when he
says still smell perfume, did it

454
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,240
rub off on you?
It's like doesn't make sense.

455
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,560
So here you can take me as you
are.

456
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,240
I love that instead of take me
as I am.

457
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:21,960
I like when he says how did he
says like teeth or something,

458
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,560
right?
Or it sounds like he's saying

459
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,200
that even if the words aren't
that.

460
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,000
You know what it is?
Why are you laughing?

461
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,400
Did did you watch that part in
the visualizer?

462
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:39,440
Is it you're numb?
That part I don't know.

463
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:40,560
I don't know.
I just wrote.

464
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:47,120
I wrote down teeth.
In the visualizer it says from

465
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,120
tit to teeth your.
Numb.

466
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,720
Yeah.
Oh, I missed that.

467
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,400
I was writing down.
Shoot.

468
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:58,040
I was like, whoa, OK, Dave
caught that.

469
00:25:58,080 --> 00:25:59,640
I did not.
This should be your favorite

470
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,000
song, according to that
reaction.

471
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:07,520
All right, I'm just going to say
it my way at the show, OK, You

472
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:11,040
guys could say your way.
To Capricorn of wonder.

473
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,760
Yes, yes, exactly.
It's always Capricorn of wonder

474
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,760
man.
Oh, I like when another one

475
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,040
where he twists it like or it
had.

476
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:24,720
Could you get to see it two
different ways?

477
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,280
When he says I could be your
lifeline, you could throw me

478
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:28,720
out.
I like that.

479
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,800
I picture like lifeline, like a
fishing reel.

480
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:36,240
Throw me out lifeline, really,
and you know, and then also

481
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,480
could be throw me.
Out like you could take me or

482
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,320
leave me.
I could be there for you or you

483
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,160
could just toss me aside.
So I feel like it has double

484
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:45,360
meaning.
That's interesting.

485
00:26:45,360 --> 00:26:47,600
Thanks.
I feel like this person has like

486
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:52,800
some sort of like crazy hold on
him, like he, you know, like

487
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,800
he's saying like do what you
want with me.

488
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,760
I'm yours.
You could, you know, RIP my

489
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,520
heart from my chest and I'd
still sleep.

490
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:06,360
Just a sound or whatever it is.
Yeah, the waiting kills you

491
00:27:06,360 --> 00:27:10,120
before the hemlock does.
I like, I just love it, Dave.

492
00:27:10,120 --> 00:27:11,600
I don't know.
You're going to, you're going to

493
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:12,640
grow into it.
I know it.

494
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,400
I probably would.
Just one of those things where

495
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,120
right now.
Well, one has to.

496
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,000
Some have to float to the top
right?

497
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:24,800
That happened and then Will
posted on Reddit an acoustic

498
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,720
version of the song an hour
before the midnight release and

499
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,960
he said it was he was singing it
for us, the fans.

500
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:36,160
And did you notice when he said
the last line is like a message

501
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:40,120
to us and the last lines are
don't try this at home.

502
00:27:40,120 --> 00:27:41,880
So what do?
You think he means there?

503
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:46,080
That was just like.
I don't really know yet.

504
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:51,240
Either interesting, but you
know, the word hemlock had me

505
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:55,080
wondering because correct me if
I'm wrong, but I could swear

506
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,600
there was an old song that was
scrapped or that either the name

507
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,680
was changed and it was called
Hemlock.

508
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:06,800
So that made me wonder if any of
that was put into this or like I

509
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,560
said, maybe it was just changed
title and it is a different

510
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,360
song.
But but yeah, that ending, what

511
00:28:12,360 --> 00:28:14,720
does that mean?
Don't try this at home.

512
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,520
I know, I think it's going to
take some thinking and listening

513
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,720
to to sort it out.
He probably just likes that line

514
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,760
too.
Just that's always a thing like

515
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,920
don't try this at home at the
end of things, you know,

516
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,800
commercials where they show like
a someone driving a car fast

517
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:34,440
around a Cliff or something,
right, jumping off a building or

518
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:35,600
whatever.
Don't try this at home.

519
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,760
So I don't know, I just.
I just messing with us.

520
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,520
Yeah, he likes speculating and
ruminating.

521
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,280
Yeah, then he can go on the
Reddit and point and laugh.

522
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:50,080
I mean real.
I would too, OK.

523
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:55,600
Yeah.
Foxholes, foxholes.

524
00:28:55,720 --> 00:29:00,600
Dave, what's your take?
Rocky as in rocky rock music,

525
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,120
not Rocky Balboa.
I wasn't thinking of that.

526
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,600
Makes you want to move, so going
back to your pop.

527
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,320
Bop bop bop.
Yeah, and I've got great tune.

528
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:17,080
It is a great tune.
I know we've been knocking

529
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:22,320
around for a while in different
forms, but to hear it, as we've

530
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,560
all sort of said, it'd be good
to hear it.

531
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,800
They've clearly changed it,
Really like it.

532
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:28,240
Really.
Did.

533
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,760
It's always had my heart.
I always loved foxholes.

534
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,080
Yeah, I just put rock out.
Headbanger still.

535
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,560
Favorite.
Beginning pulls you right in

536
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:40,920
with the flickering sounds.
Mark on the high hat because I

537
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:42,320
always noticed the little drum
things.

538
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,640
Oh yeah, I'm such a sucker for
that.

539
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,760
And I wrote crisp, clean vocals.
Smooth.

540
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:52,960
I dig it.
I dig foxholes.

541
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,920
My first two things that I wrote
down and I wrote these in caps.

542
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,840
Apparently I was excited.
I wrote guitar solo.

543
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:05,480
Holy SHIT.
And then I wrote Bleep in a Joe

544
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,880
Can Sing in that scream.
This is another This is another

545
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,280
Joel Goldsmith You are a Rock
Star song.

546
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:16,120
Oh my God that guitar solo is
freaking blistering.

547
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,240
I love it.
And his part of?

548
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,480
That Joe screaming gosh and I
feel.

549
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,400
Like, yeah, and clearly they
changed the end of it.

550
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:28,840
The scream wasn't always in
there.

551
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,000
But I still feel like, and maybe
this is just the difference

552
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,200
between the studio version and
the live version, but the

553
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:40,440
contrast between the chorus and
the verse seems a lot more stark

554
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:44,040
than it did live.
And I don't know if that was a

555
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,880
change they intentionally made
or if that's just the way it

556
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,960
came across in studio versus
live.

557
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,200
But I mean, I had my headphones
on.

558
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,680
So when Will was when Will was
saying the verse, it was almost

559
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,360
like he was like whispering in
my ear.

560
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:02,960
It was very different from the
chorus, which is, you know,

561
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,240
banging.
But yeah, what a.

562
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,480
Song.
I like the idea of, like, his

563
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,280
voice in your ears, like,
whispering to you.

564
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:11,480
Yeah.
And listening in the dark.

565
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,960
That's cool.
So that's like, it was.

566
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:15,600
Yeah.
It was weird.

567
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,120
It was cool.
And of course, you know, there

568
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,080
are no atheists in the foxholes.
I think we've talked about this

569
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,640
before, but yeah.
That's a cool phrase.

570
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:30,560
It's got a lot of meaning.
I just wanted to say it was it

571
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:34,480
was the high hat mark but also
the snare rim that he was

572
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,760
playing on.
He did both of those a lot.

573
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:41,160
And I, I just want to correct
that so I don't get Mark note

574
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,040
later.
Yeah.

575
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,920
When you watch the visually
seized tapping on the rim for

576
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,920
the beginning flickering bit.
And then he uses the hi hat a

577
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:49,400
lot.
Use the hi hat a lot in songs.

578
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,200
And I just sorry to if I hurt
your ears.

579
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,800
I just dig it.
How you?

580
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,040
The hi hat is the 2 cymbals that
are sandwiched on top of each

581
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:58,320
other.
And I just love how it sounds

582
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,640
when you tap it when it's closed
and then when you like have it

583
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,600
go up and down and tap it, it
changes the sound.

584
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:07,120
It's just I just should just get
a hi hat and have it next to me

585
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:11,240
here.
You should do that.

586
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,800
Yeah, I played the drums.
My parents only bought me a

587
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,120
snare drum.
Really, they should have just

588
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,040
bought me a hi hat and I could
have had fun there.

589
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:18,520
Apparently.
Like I would have learned so

590
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,520
much from Mark that you could do
with a hi hat.

591
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,720
OK, Fatal.
Was really surprised at the

592
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:29,240
tempo given the song title.
In the sense of what?

593
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,520
It was kind of like Leslie would
say it was more of a bop.

594
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,120
I'm like fatal.
Fatal is a bop.

595
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:42,120
This doesn't compete for me.
Wasn't expecting that.

596
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:46,200
No, I wrote fast and I actually
wrote, but I've since like

597
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,520
changed my opinion.
I wrote doesn't instantly grab

598
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,680
me.
I wrote like it wasn't like from

599
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,600
the start, didn't like get me
right away.

600
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,240
Fair.
Yeah.

601
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,480
No, Yes, I.
Absolutely agree.

602
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,600
No different to me with
foxholes, you know?

603
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:12,560
Yeah, See this one for me
because I remember we spoke a

604
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,720
couple of days ago and I went
and there's one song that really

605
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:20,360
pricked my ears up and this was
the one for me.

606
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,840
Obviously it pricked me ears up
from the gig.

607
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:30,200
I think it's one of those songs
that's better live, but this for

608
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,080
me is one of my favourites.
I've written down.

609
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:37,200
I remember this from the gig.
Great live future hit.

610
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:43,160
It's virtually a double
crescendo on this one, and I

611
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,280
loved it.
I wrote that word down.

612
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,360
I said that's why Dave said
Crescendo.

613
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:53,160
Yeah, and for some reason it
just, I really remember it from

614
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,440
the gig.
Must have something must have

615
00:33:55,440 --> 00:34:00,320
gone in at the gig.
And I really, really love this

616
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,200
song.
Now bear in mind, I don't.

617
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:07,680
I haven't dug as deep as you lot
into lyrics and everything like

618
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,040
this, because for me it's about
loving it.

619
00:34:12,639 --> 00:34:16,239
I'll look into it later.
Yeah, I really, really like

620
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,800
Fatal.
I like it a lot now.

621
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,880
First, at first listen, it
didn't grab me right away, but

622
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,600
after having listened to it, I
really like it.

623
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,320
I love the chorus, I love that
staccato.

624
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:33,159
Just I think that really just
adds to the end of what's the

625
00:34:33,159 --> 00:34:37,960
word I want to use, like urgency
or anxiety of it.

626
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,960
You know what I mean?
I don't know a word, but it

627
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:47,679
makes it feel urgent.
It makes it feel tension. 10

628
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,360
Yes, yes, yes.
It makes it feel tense.

629
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,120
Yeah.
And another thing I had to look

630
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,840
up was freaking camera obscura.
Did you guys?

631
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,080
I didn't have any idea what that
was.

632
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:04,120
I know I know, I've learned
about it or something, but I

633
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,280
didn't re look it up.
I meant to re look it up though.

634
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,280
The best example is basically
one of those little pinhole

635
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,280
boxes that kids make in school
so they can watch the eclipse.

636
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,000
Yeah, cuz, he says.
That right, Doesn't he say,

637
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,760
yeah, something about a pinhole?
Yeah, yeah, he says.

638
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:23,400
Empty in your heart that
persists through a pinhole.

639
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,960
A camera obscura perceived on
the atrium.

640
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,600
And it was interesting where he
talked about Sinai's peak.

641
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,280
I know he speaks perfect prose
because on Sinai's peak, he took

642
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,760
my hand.
Well, in the Bible, Mount Sinai

643
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,720
is where Moses traveled up the
mountain to receive the 10

644
00:35:40,720 --> 00:35:44,280
commandments from God.
And he spoke with God and he

645
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:48,240
kind of saw God.
He saw God's back because to see

646
00:35:48,240 --> 00:35:52,760
God's face would apparently be
too much for a human to handle.

647
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,200
But super interesting.
I rely on you for some of this

648
00:35:55,200 --> 00:36:01,200
religious stuff because I'm I'm
not so familiar, but I said the

649
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,920
bridge is everything.
Oh gosh.

650
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,920
And when he says, I wish you all
could understand the words I

651
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:11,680
say.
And I feel like I take that as

652
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:15,600
will really talking to us about
his perspective on things.

653
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:20,520
And maybe sometimes he's
misunderstood or people

654
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:25,800
misinterpret the words to suit
their opinion, their pre, their

655
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,280
prejudice opinion or their.
Yeah, I, yeah.

656
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,520
That like, oh, yes, some of that
was one of those moments that

657
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,760
makes you want to like, tear up
a little bit.

658
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,080
Maybe Dave doesn't feel the way.
I think, Angie, you probably do.

659
00:36:36,720 --> 00:36:39,400
It was very sad.
Yeah, I get what you're saying,

660
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,560
that there are a lot of sad
lyrics throughout the whole.

661
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,240
Make it so hard for a boy to
believe.

662
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,640
Oh, I know.
And then can I just take a bit

663
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:54,480
more for myself?
It just makes you want to.

664
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,960
And then and he's like something
about it taking a year off or

665
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:02,480
yeah.
And then I brought up round

666
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,160
Robin singing.
I was like, I'm going to write

667
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,200
this note and I don't know if
everyone's going to know what.

668
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:07,920
The heck I'm talking about there
is.

669
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:12,720
I didn't catch that.
At the end they the the IT goes

670
00:37:12,720 --> 00:37:15,600
round Robin so it's like it
starts and then repeat.

671
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:20,520
Like what stagger repeats?
That's what that is that.

672
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,400
It made me want to ask Dave, did
you learn the song London Bridge

673
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,240
is Falling Down in school?
Yes, yes, yes.

674
00:37:26,240 --> 00:37:27,520
The round Robin.
Yes.

675
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,440
No.
How each person start?

676
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,400
We should do that, Guy, no?
No.

677
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,240
Let's do it.
We're back in preschool.

678
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:39,680
Yes, we could teach these kids
that don't know London.

679
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:49,440
London Bridge is falling down,
My Fair Lady.

680
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,160
Come on, Dave.
No.

681
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,000
It's the one song that can get
on here without copyright

682
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,720
problems, probably.
I drink.

683
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,280
OK, he's got a drink.
Just.

684
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,360
As soon as you said do I know
London Bridge, I knew where this

685
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:04,280
was going to take.
US.

686
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:05,640
Nice.
I didn't know if that was the

687
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,200
American thing.
Just to clarify, you're, you're

688
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,040
drinking coffee, right?
I mean.

689
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,240
Yes, or his whiskey and his
coffee cup.

690
00:38:12,240 --> 00:38:13,400
I mean to.
Talk to us.

691
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,720
I wouldn't be surprised if he
did have a little nip or

692
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:17,960
something.
That's afterwards to help me

693
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,400
sleep.
I still have some Sam Adams

694
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,920
here.
So do I.

695
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:29,280
Also wrote down this moment.
Understand my words.

696
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,400
This moment could hurt you, but
it won't hurt me.

697
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,480
Yeah, more of that sad, sad
stuff it.

698
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:41,240
Is quite, I'm going to say, a
sad song.

699
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,320
I don't know all the lyrics yet.
I have watched the visual

700
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:51,160
visualizers, but I tend to sort
of listen and then pick up what

701
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:56,040
I sort of pick up.
Yeah, it just reminded me of

702
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:56,640
something.
Sorry.

703
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,200
Yeah, no, go ahead.
I was just going to say, the

704
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:04,800
other thing that happened in
this past week was the vinyl

705
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:09,640
release.
Yes, how can we forget about

706
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,160
that?
Angie, give us an update on

707
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:17,680
sales of the vinyl.
Vinyl is sold out, gone

708
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,440
completely in the US.
In the UK too.

709
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,440
Yay.
And we all got our orders in, so

710
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,240
that's good.
I think most people that want it

711
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,000
did.
Some got more than they

712
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,720
bargained for.
Yeah, that would be, that would

713
00:39:31,720 --> 00:39:33,920
be me.
Because, you know, me being

714
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,800
stupid was like, oh, let's go in
and look and see if I can figure

715
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:40,200
out how many are left because
I'm nosy and curious and I

716
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:41,800
accidentally bought myself two
more.

717
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,960
So I was like, oh, well, this is
great.

718
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:45,560
So you helped.
It fill out at 1:00.

719
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:49,880
Stage I put about 100 in and I
was like please don't buy it,

720
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,080
please I can't afford this,
please don't buy it.

721
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:56,840
Not a die.
That'd be fun to get like a

722
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:58,800
pallet of records.
Here's your house.

723
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,080
Yeah.
And then at one stage, yeah, one

724
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,520
stage it was like 19 left.
Can I afford that?

725
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,400
No, no.
OK, Shut it down.

726
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,840
Come away before you do
something silly.

727
00:40:11,240 --> 00:40:14,680
One simple click and you would
have had way too many.

728
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:19,560
Oh, that's a good one.
Boy they should do that for

729
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:23,640
their like merch sales once.
One simple click.

730
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,760
Oh my gosh, you're a genius.
All right, that's going to be on

731
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:31,160
like the next graphic I make or
story or something.

732
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,280
Once of a click and you can hear
one civil trick.

733
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,200
Get your tickets for once of a
tour.

734
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:41,200
Amazing, amazing.
And I just want to say the

735
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,160
reason I thought of that was
because we were talking about

736
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:48,000
lyrics and it appears that the
lyrics will be on the jacket of

737
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,360
the vinyl, which is a first that
they're feeding us the lyrics

738
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,240
instead of us freaking trying to
figure it out.

739
00:40:53,240 --> 00:40:57,280
They that means I feel like they
really want us to know or will

740
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,240
especially wants us to know what
he is saying.

741
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,800
Maybe just like the part where
he says, I wish I could you

742
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,600
could understand all the things
I say, yes.

743
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:13,920
Oh, and then in MSR when he says
don't misinterpret me, yes, here

744
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,080
we go.
Now we can't because it's going

745
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,000
to be in black and white or
black and red, it looks like.

746
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,680
The retroness of this album,
when I say retro, I'm not going

747
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,160
back around the 2000s, that sort
of thing.

748
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:32,760
But at that stage we all used to
buy records, tapes, CDs, and

749
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:37,640
you'd have them all on there.
So it's going to bring us oldies

750
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:41,240
back to it's got the lyrics.
Yeah, when you'd like lay on

751
00:41:41,240 --> 00:41:42,440
your bed, on your.
Stomach.

752
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,680
Exactly.
You've got put the CD in or and

753
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,440
then you're squinting to see
Yeah.

754
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,560
Yeah, and those lyrics from what
I feel like lyrics in general

755
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:58,520
are not as complicated as this.
This is homework.

756
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,040
This is exciting.
This is your teaching vocabulary

757
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,000
and geography will.
So thank you for teaching the

758
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,760
use of America and UK in the
world.

759
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,920
So honestly, words and
references.

760
00:42:09,720 --> 00:42:12,440
It's like going to school,
trying to figure out his lyrics.

761
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,840
And I mean, it goes without
saying, he's just a terrific

762
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:19,080
lyricist.
So I mean, if you think about

763
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:23,560
some of some of the songs from
the bands, you know, back when,

764
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:28,800
you know, 20 years ago.
With it good.

765
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,720
Right, right, right.
Or just like baby baby, stuff

766
00:42:32,720 --> 00:42:34,760
like that, you know?
Jump up, jump up.

767
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,240
Get down.
Jump, jump.

768
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,360
Everybody.
Jump Anyway, we need to stop

769
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,960
this because otherwise we're
going to have to cut this out or

770
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,360
get.
How about yummy yummy yummy?

771
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,160
OK, we'll shut up.
Yeah, copyright.

772
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,160
It doesn't sound like the real.
Song, I think we're good.

773
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:54,640
You certainly don't.
Don't.

774
00:42:56,240 --> 00:42:59,480
Dave, I could give you a resume
of my Dave, my singing

775
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:03,760
repertoire of musicals and
concert performances if you'd

776
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,760
like.
We're just going to have to sing

777
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,320
London Bridge.
That's it.

778
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:08,800
It's real.
You Can't Sing the birthday

779
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,160
song, you have to pay for that.
Do you know that?

780
00:43:10,720 --> 00:43:13,000
Are you kidding me?
Anyway, yeah, sorry.

781
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:14,760
You have to pay for that.
That's why they don't sing it in

782
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,240
restaurants they have their own
versions of.

783
00:43:16,240 --> 00:43:18,680
Happy birthday.
Are you for real?

784
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,520
Real.
Wow, mind blown.

785
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:24,840
You learned something here on
the pod.

786
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,520
Should we move on on that point
to death box?

787
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:32,480
Death box Freaking box man.
Death Box is.

788
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,760
I'm digging it.
I didn't think I'd like a song

789
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,280
called Death Box as much as I
do.

790
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:43,640
I thought it'd be an Angie song.
Yes, yes, yes.

791
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:48,120
To me, this is this is an indie
track through and through indie

792
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,640
alternative.
Forget your other genres rocks.

793
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,960
I've no clue what math rock is
what you could.

794
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:56,920
I know.
Everybody tells me I listen to

795
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:58,480
math rock.
I'm like, what the fuck is that?

796
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:02,720
I hate math.
This to me is an indie track

797
00:44:02,720 --> 00:44:05,520
through and through.
I've got indie fabulous.

798
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:09,200
Love it.
That's yeah, I, I love it.

799
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,520
It's great track, absolutely
fantastic.

800
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,880
Heck.
It's all super great and I

801
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:21,160
really love this song too, but
the part that's super cool for

802
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:22,840
me is around the three minute
mark.

803
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:27,800
It almost sounds like some sort
of funeral dirge type thing

804
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,400
going on.
It's just like this very heavy

805
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:36,600
kind of and it gets just a
little more, a little more

806
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:42,080
louder and maybe a little more
menacing each time.

807
00:44:42,720 --> 00:44:45,680
It's literally like a funeral
lament.

808
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,800
So OK, that kind of makes sense.
I have no idea if that's what

809
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:52,600
they intended or if it's just,
you know, my.

810
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:57,440
Stupid ass making up things yeah
I wrote haunting sound yes yes

811
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,560
the synth in this song is just
oh, it's so good.

812
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:04,320
It's just peak freaking
beginning That sounds like a

813
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:09,160
race car revving up.
Getting ready to launch actually

814
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,240
is nightmarish for me.
I often have repetitive night.

815
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:16,000
Not like anyone wants to hear
this, but I frequently have

816
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,600
nightmares of being in a car
that's super high speed, like

817
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,680
out of control, and I'm going
around a bend, like flying off

818
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,720
the road that.
Yeah, that's that part is so

819
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,160
intense and cool.
Yeah.

820
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,720
Dig it.
That's what I thought of, like a

821
00:45:31,720 --> 00:45:32,680
race car.
I don't know if you thought of

822
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:33,760
anything else.
Yes, Dave.

823
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,200
I've got to take a chicken out
the oven.

824
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,840
Just bear with me.
Is that code for something else?

825
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,280
I was wondering what the hell he
was going to say.

826
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,160
I was like, oh shoot, I'm sorry
I'm talking too much.

827
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:58,720
You want to chime in?
Like he's really got something

828
00:45:58,720 --> 00:46:04,360
he wants to say.
Oh my word.

829
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,280
Death box.
I love death box.

830
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,000
Oh.
My gosh, come on girls, spit it

831
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:12,480
out.
Oh, I love that.

832
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:15,360
Right.
It's like we're with you.

833
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,160
Yes, Spit it out.
How's the chicken?

834
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:22,200
The chicken cooked.
Did the popper pop?

835
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:27,680
We don't have poppers popping.
No, we don't have.

836
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:30,560
That sounds really good
actually.

837
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:35,000
I know.
I'm sat there and I'm like, Oh

838
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:36,960
my God, it's got to come out.
Should have come out five

839
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:40,040
minutes ago.
But it was all good.

840
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:42,960
Yeah, it's all good in the hood,
OK.

841
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:47,520
It's all good.
So this line in Death Box I

842
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,920
thought was really deep.
You found God, I got interred.

843
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:54,240
Ouch.
That's like, yeah, man, we can

844
00:46:54,240 --> 00:46:55,520
interpret these things in so
many.

845
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,640
Ways or I don't know if it's the
ways we want to interpret it or

846
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:01,640
how it really was meant to be.
Yeah.

847
00:47:01,720 --> 00:47:04,440
I don't know then the part
about.

848
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:09,280
I'm not sure it's going to.
I'll create what you intend to

849
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,360
create.
I'm not going to fight you for a

850
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:12,960
parking space.
Yes.

851
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:17,080
And the thing about a dollar or
the money, these titles are

852
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:18,880
still like crazy.
I remember when we saw these

853
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:20,920
titles thinking like, how are
they going to write a song with

854
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,800
that title?
It just sounds like not a title,

855
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,920
Right?
There's no solace in the dollar.

856
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:29,920
You found God.
I got interred.

857
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,760
Oh.
That's a little bitty shit.

858
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,680
God damn it, take that out, I
said, biting.

859
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,200
I you were like, I thought you
were going to say, oh poop.

860
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,280
I got to take the chicken out.
Because you were like.

861
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:49,640
Oh crap, take that out.
I was like you a chicken too.

862
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:51,080
You were just saying it sounded
good.

863
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:57,000
Oh my God, where am I?
Chicken all right.

864
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,200
I think you're digging yourself
a hole there ready for your

865
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,880
death box, aren't you?
I feel like we should leave that

866
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:08,280
in because it's funny.
That's staying in.

867
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:10,840
I mean, how about the press
release?

868
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:12,920
Come on.
The press release they put out

869
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,760
themselves says they cut their
teeth.

870
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,680
Did anyone else notice that?
Yes, yes, that's awesome.

871
00:48:20,720 --> 00:48:22,840
You know what?
They could have said something

872
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:24,920
else.
Yeah, yeah.

873
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,280
And I don't know, It's time to
not like we need to go out of

874
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,200
our way to talk about it, but
it's time to start being so

875
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,480
tiptoe Y around everything.
It's like it is what it is.

876
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,720
I.
Don't know bygones.

877
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:42,480
Yeah.
When he says come on, girls spit

878
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,600
it out and all they want the
world, no, the world keeps

879
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,960
calling me.
Come on, girl, spit it out.

880
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,600
All they want to say is I look
better now.

881
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:58,080
I was like whoa, well, and the
visualizer.

882
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:02,360
I love that friggin visualizer
thing how you see him like the

883
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,320
microphone just alone and then
you see like come on girl spit

884
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,320
out, then goes back again.
Do you notice that Dave?

885
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:09,600
Maybe you're not even looking
there.

886
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,960
No, that's what I'm.
Sat there looking basically at

887
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:16,720
the lyrics.
Just I wrote good for you,

888
00:49:16,720 --> 00:49:19,760
Wilbur.
Exclamation point all cap gas

889
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:23,800
Yes, yes.
Get it, girl.

890
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,360
Get it, boy?
Right.

891
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,640
Yes, yes, it was.
I'm so happy for him.

892
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:34,280
Like this has been probably so
therapeutic.

893
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:35,920
I'm happy, so happy.
So proud.

894
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:39,840
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And yes, the visualizer.

895
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:43,320
Quick side note, it's great.
I love especially Ash, the way

896
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:48,200
his camera is turned you can see
a lot of his like the

897
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,200
fingering's on his base.
I love it.

898
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,440
Yes, I must admit, sort of look
in there and all that lot,

899
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,520
you're trying to read the
lyrics, but then hold on a

900
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:56,880
minute.
What's what's going on there?

901
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:58,880
What's going on there?
What's going on there?

902
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,320
It's great because it makes you
watch it again and watch it

903
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,680
again.
It's and then sometimes they

904
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:08,800
move around a little bit and
it's like it's.

905
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:10,440
I was.
Looking for the coffee machine

906
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,000
because someone said there was a
coffee machine this song so I

907
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:16,600
was hoping there'd be a coffee
machine little screen.

908
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:18,760
They said in this song
specifically.

909
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,720
No, in one of the songs.
So I was hoping in the

910
00:50:21,720 --> 00:50:24,160
visualizer there'd be like a
little window that would pop up

911
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,920
with a coffee machine in it
instead of a little guitar

912
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,440
microphone.
I have that in my notes.

913
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:31,880
OK, I have that in my note for
another song.

914
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,680
Yeah.
I don't know if I'm right, but I

915
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:36,240
wanted to ask you guys what you
thought.

916
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:40,200
Let's go to Scoundrels then, so
we can keep moving along.

917
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:43,600
I was going to say because I'm a
dork, when he brought up

918
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,120
postcards, I was like, oh,
postcards.

919
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,560
Oh, and the fans are going to
hear postcards not just coming

920
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:53,200
from me, but from Will.
And I like when he says the long

921
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,760
words under the stamps.
I thought that was funny.

922
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,640
I like picturing that.
But yeah, cards are concerned.

923
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:02,120
Plug there in my mind.
Probably not totally between

924
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:05,000
that, no, between that and the
AB positive.

925
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:08,560
I mean, this is all about you.
We are connected, all about you.

926
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:12,720
There you go.
Mine meld.

927
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,120
Yeah, He speaks to me directly.
Just.

928
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,320
No, I don't really believe that.
OK.

929
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,920
I believe he believes that.
Only at the meeting greet, but

930
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:28,040
not any other time.
I like the line.

931
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:31,320
All our friends have sponsors in
the hope to attract a national

932
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:32,800
brand.
Is that a dig?

933
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:36,080
I feel like that could be a dig.
Yes, it is.

934
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:38,720
Is that a dig?
Hell yeah.

935
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:42,400
And I love it.
I love these friggin digs man, I

936
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:46,160
love it.
We needed this too as fans.

937
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,080
These.
Digs Thank you, Will, for

938
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:51,000
putting into words how we felt
over the last year and a half

939
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,600
along with you because yes, no
kidding.

940
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:57,160
And I man, Ash and Mark are
always like, you know, holding

941
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,680
down the bottom end really good.
But especially on this song,

942
00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:03,760
they are just so tight and just
cohesive.

943
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:07,760
And that's one of the things I
think that this band has really

944
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:12,440
crazily improved on, among a ton
of other things, is there's such

945
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:17,160
a tight unit musically.
And when you hear Ash and Mark

946
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,160
together, you know, with the
bass and the drums kind of

947
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:21,520
holding down that bottom end and
holding everything else

948
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,840
together, it really stood out
for me, especially on this song,

949
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:31,240
and it's just fantastic.
Absolute banger as you 2 would

950
00:52:31,240 --> 00:52:34,280
say.
I say bop and he says banger.

951
00:52:35,240 --> 00:52:45,800
What's your B word, Dave?
I really can't say because

952
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:50,120
they'll upset the pair of you,
but it rhymes with witches.

953
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,280
Oh, oh, I don't care about that
word.

954
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:54,680
I think you're going to say
something that rhymes with

955
00:52:54,680 --> 00:53:03,880
walls.
See, now I would have said

956
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:13,160
Rolex, but you know.
Any who Dave since you're the

957
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:17,480
he's like music maven I.
I have written.

958
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:21,280
OK, OK, you go.
Scoundrels the best.

959
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:24,400
Sorry, can't read me, I'm
writing the beat.

960
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,000
Love it.
Epic great lies.

961
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:33,640
Me mouse, me mouse.
I forgot about me mouse.

962
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:36,240
There were squirrels today.
Sorry.

963
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:39,680
It's too early in the morning
for you too, isn't it?

964
00:53:40,240 --> 00:53:43,360
Yes, yeah.
I bet this song would be great

965
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,200
live.
And since you're the only one

966
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,440
that's had the pleasure of
hearing it live yet, and then it

967
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,640
follows the fall.
It's like, how could something

968
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:57,080
follow the fall?
Yeah, when he says this is where

969
00:53:57,080 --> 00:54:01,080
I was going before Dave, well, I
said you, you're the 80s music

970
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,120
maven, punk, blah, blah, blah,
blah.

971
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:07,960
And plus it's English.
When he says I fall, I tend to

972
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,920
fall.
I thought it sounded like I tend

973
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:14,360
to fall.
Sometimes I feel like it sounded

974
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,640
very 80s like Duran Duran or
something.

975
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:19,040
I don't know.
It just reminded me of that.

976
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,560
I started playing Duran Duran
for for my daughter because I

977
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:28,440
thought it sounded Duran Duran E
some sort of 80s English band

978
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:33,200
sound to me.
I, I, yeah, I get where you're

979
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:39,800
coming from From, yeah.
I got to figure out what song or

980
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:43,080
album or not album.
Couldn't turn around and say so

981
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,840
and so from Duran Duran.
To be honest I like him.

982
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,200
Never been the hugest of fans
but.

983
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,360
Some sort of English 80s band.
I just try to figure out which

984
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:53,520
one it sounds like to me.
Yeah.

985
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:55,880
And how about when he says lie
awake?

986
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:59,840
I used to lie awake.
Nor are people things reference,

987
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,160
I thought.
Yeah, I could lie awake.

988
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:09,560
Oh God, how I used to lie awake
and listen to repetition sad

989
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:14,080
lyrics again, isn't it?
But words did you have down for

990
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,800
your notes.
I had So what's it even mean to

991
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:20,080
be accepted by the scene and
judge your worth in magazines?

992
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:24,320
And another one I thought was
interesting is I could see the

993
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:27,200
woods if not for all these
effing trees, yes.

994
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:29,400
I love that.
And I was like, oh, that's for.

995
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:33,160
Andy, wait, the yeah, I dig that
that.

996
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:37,640
Cracks me up to see the forest
for the trees or whatever.

997
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:39,920
And then he says it that way.
Yeah, yeah.

998
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:43,960
See the wood through the trees?
That's good.

999
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,760
That's so good.
I feel like this song has a lot

1000
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:53,960
of like staticky kind of noise
behind it, and I like that.

1001
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,280
Like it's it's cool.
And it's another one of those

1002
00:55:56,280 --> 00:56:00,760
crescendo type songs, right?
It kind of builds to this piece.

1003
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,440
Yeah.
And this was the one.

1004
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,200
Yes, this was the one.
OK.

1005
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,760
It was late at night, so maybe
my hearing wasn't good.

1006
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,120
This was the one where at the
end I'm like, is that the coffee

1007
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:14,840
maker?
I don't know.

1008
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:18,320
I got to listen to it again.
But I think my daughter heard

1009
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:20,800
that because I said there's
something about a coffee maker

1010
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:23,800
and it sounds sort of like the
last bit of water going through

1011
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:24,320
the thing.
Right?

1012
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,480
Yes, yes.
So I didn't know if this was the

1013
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:31,200
song Doesn't ask you guys, like
if you heard anything that

1014
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:33,040
sounded like a coffee.
I didn't.

1015
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,800
Notice any coffee maker on stage
or anything?

1016
00:56:37,720 --> 00:56:40,080
I would have been in the first
in the queue to be honest, but

1017
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:40,800
you know.
Yeah.

1018
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:46,560
But I need you to listen to that
and tell me if I'm crazy or not.

1019
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:51,120
And we when we come back for our
next episode, we're all going to

1020
00:56:51,240 --> 00:56:55,600
agree that the coffee maker is
in a certain song.

1021
00:56:56,640 --> 00:57:00,800
OK, deal.
I also wrote organ because I

1022
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:02,400
heard organ playing and I beg
your pardon.

1023
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:05,440
And organ was what the freak
right?

1024
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:09,520
Where you going with this?
I heard an organ playing in that

1025
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:12,720
song, Sir.
You know, like they have a

1026
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:15,080
church.
Maybe you should get be there.

1027
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,040
I bet Pastor Gold knows the
church you can go to.

1028
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:23,320
Yes, where?
Angie and I are signing up

1029
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:24,920
already for that cult.
Just saying.

1030
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,400
Yeah, does.
Not surprise me in the

1031
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:32,160
slightest.
Where do we sign?

1032
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:33,120
Our life away?
Yeah.

1033
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,360
You've already done that, God.
Don't say.

1034
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:43,120
That I can see it now on the
VIP, you know, pastor, you know,

1035
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:47,360
give him money in the box.
God.

1036
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:50,320
Yeah, I'm not hiding that
tidying up my sleeve.

1037
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:55,840
OK, any who.
This is.

1038
00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:01,720
Going downhill fast.
Here we go.

1039
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:05,600
Beautiful.
I wrote Bop and I wanted Angie's

1040
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:08,240
interpretation because she knows
the stuff better than me.

1041
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:11,320
Remind me again about the 30
pieces of silver that he

1042
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:12,800
references?
Yes, when?

1043
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:16,600
Judas portrayed Jesus handed him
over to the Romans so he could

1044
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:20,960
be crucified.
The Romans, in return for Jesus,

1045
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:26,400
gave Judas 30 pieces of silver.
Yeah, and you brought this up in

1046
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:31,600
an early pod episode because it
was a clue maybe by Ash on the

1047
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:33,800
redhead or something.
Or was it in?

1048
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:37,400
No, I think it was in the
lyrics.

1049
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,440
Wasn't it in the back of the
lyrics on the teaser right?

1050
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:42,360
That too.
Yeah.

1051
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:46,280
So I feel like it's a symbol of
betrayal.

1052
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,320
Then he says blasphemy.
He says blasphemy a few times or

1053
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:53,720
references it.
I believe in a couple songs, but

1054
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:56,240
I know he says it in this one.
We all fake fine.

1055
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:59,680
I thought that was strong
because it's so true.

1056
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:02,160
Whenever you're asked like how
are you fine?

1057
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:04,720
Yeah, dishonest.
All the we all fake.

1058
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:08,920
Fine, dishonest all the way.
Yeah, I've written down.

1059
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:10,280
OK.
Let's.

1060
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:15,880
Hear that great song.
Glorious.

1061
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:21,560
I like that shoegaze finale.
What was the middle word?

1062
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:27,000
Shoegaze.
Shoegaze is a genre.

1063
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:33,120
It's that style of music and
shoegaze was kind of dance mode

1064
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:36,600
it or how people used to kind of
dance to it.

1065
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:42,240
And it's the two have kind of
clicked together because of this

1066
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:44,880
style of music.
Look it up.

1067
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:50,280
But shoegaze was another indie
sub genre.

1068
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:53,880
Jeez, Are you sure you're not
like a music Professor Dave with

1069
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:55,840
all this terminology?
Although you didn't know math

1070
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,480
rock and you get to know.
Again, you see it.

1071
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:02,800
It's British and American
terminology.

1072
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:07,040
Math rock to me.
I absolutely no clue what the

1073
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:08,400
hell you're on.
About I know you're there.

1074
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:09,800
Honestly.
Honestly, I don't.

1075
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:13,120
It's earlier on, you're like,
oh, it's all math rock and I'm

1076
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:16,120
thinking.
Math rock.

1077
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:18,760
Yeah, yeah, math rock.
The best way I can describe it

1078
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:22,000
is it's like a bunch of like
beats and rhythms that are that

1079
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:24,800
shouldn't work together.
Like they're all on different

1080
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:29,600
tempos and different, OK
different wavelengths, but they

1081
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:32,760
just smash them together.
Oh, so it is like math in a way

1082
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:37,040
that yeah, it works.
Look up Delta Sleep if you want

1083
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:39,120
an example.
Delta Sleep is a really good

1084
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:42,000
example of math rock.
And they're from Brighton too.

1085
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:45,960
Fun fact anyway.
But Monochrome is absolutely

1086
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:49,040
fantastic.
I love it, I really do.

1087
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:56,320
It's epic.
It is epic and it was really

1088
01:00:56,320 --> 01:01:00,400
good life.
That ending is is 100% shoe gaze

1089
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:07,320
and it's coming back in, sorry.
So it is such a British thing to

1090
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:10,360
say they we just say like what
it is like way out instead of

1091
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:11,440
exit.
It's perfect.

1092
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:15,200
And it's funny that you bring
up, yeah, it's funny that you

1093
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:19,520
bring up shoegaze because that's
exactly kind of what I wrote

1094
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:26,640
without saying shoegaze is, I
feel like it's it's something

1095
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:29,560
that you could just the
beginning and the end, it feels

1096
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:31,640
like it's something that you
could just stand there and close

1097
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:35,880
your eyes or look down and just
kind of like just sway to and

1098
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:38,000
almost get lost in.
Right.

1099
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:40,440
So exactly that's now do that
big.

1100
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:44,600
And full.
So stand there, look at the

1101
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:50,720
front of your shoes now, because
you don't know what the hell to

1102
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:54,640
do with your hands.
You either have just hold them

1103
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:57,800
together at the front or hold
them together at the back.

1104
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:00,600
You look down.
I used to have curtains.

1105
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:04,080
They would fall down, your hair
would fall down, and you would

1106
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:09,840
just, you know, I want.
To see a picture of you with

1107
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:12,280
curtain bangs.
I will try and.

1108
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:14,360
Find some fringe, they say over
there, right?

1109
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:16,280
No curtains.
Centre parting.

1110
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:20,880
Nice curtains.
Gosh, not like the picture of

1111
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:24,720
Will Lovejoy or YouTube channel.
Possibly, yeah.

1112
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:28,000
Curtains.
It's just gonna I have silly

1113
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:30,480
notes down.
I don't have like shoe gaze and

1114
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:33,800
he's like fancy terms.
I have die, die, die, die.

1115
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:38,320
Bye bye bye bye bye bye.
No, he says that right.

1116
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:41,960
I'm not making this up.
Better bye, bye, bye bye.

1117
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:44,800
Better bye, yeah.
Bye, bye, bye.

1118
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:50,280
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, big notes, layers and

1119
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:52,560
depth and texture.
I wrote and I wrote.

1120
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:54,880
Creepy ending.
It's kind of a creepy song.

1121
01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:58,920
It's kind of a creepy song
album.

1122
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:01,040
It really does.
The whole album.

1123
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:08,880
I love it, I love it.
So the part that falsetto the

1124
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:12,000
carnivore, which I think that
word is really interesting in

1125
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:16,640
that song carnivore, but I'm
assuming that's will doing a

1126
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:18,480
falsetto.
Yeah, I mean, he's, we know

1127
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:19,240
he's.
Good at that.

1128
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:22,360
Yeah, right, Right.
I love that part so much.

1129
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:24,040
It's just one of those.
Parties makes you go.

1130
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:25,600
Does that go again?
Yeah.

1131
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:28,280
I got to hear.
I I gotta, I gotta listen to

1132
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:31,200
this all again.
I know I I would have loved to

1133
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:34,560
have been able to sat here and
had it going on in the

1134
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:36,240
background.
We could do a listening party on

1135
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:40,280
Station Head and we could, you
could actually do it where you

1136
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:42,560
talk and the music's going.
Yeah.

1137
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:45,240
But it would have been nice
being able to pause it and say

1138
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:48,560
this bit to be.
Able to really do that on

1139
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:53,040
Station Ed, you could play just
the song, you could just talk,

1140
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:57,800
or you could do the song and
talk, which for some might be

1141
01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:00,960
interesting just to like sort of
like when you watched commentary

1142
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:06,320
on the DVDs back in the day.
Dating myself, we could do that.

1143
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:09,640
Oh yeah.
It's a shame we can't think,

1144
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:14,160
it's a shame we can't record it
and put it up again.

1145
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:17,960
It records it for you, but then
I don't know how you how we

1146
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:19,720
share it.
Yeah, like legally.

1147
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:23,360
Exactly.
You know, from the first time I

1148
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:25,600
heard the name of the song in
the length and that it was at

1149
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:29,480
the end, I was hoping it was
going to be like this sweeping

1150
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:33,760
kind of epic finale, like you
said, Dave, and.

1151
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:36,880
And it is like it's, it's, it's
exactly what I hope for.

1152
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:39,840
Except of course, like
everything else, it's more than

1153
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:42,360
I had hoped for.
It's more than I had expected.

1154
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:43,840
And I I think you.
A lot.

1155
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:48,400
I know you're a metal haired
etcetera etcetera, but I think

1156
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:53,200
you might have expected more
grungier to it.

1157
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:56,560
The whole album has a complete
retro feel to it.

1158
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:02,840
If you go back 25 years, it's
got that feel to it.

1159
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:06,840
There's so many different bands,
people you can pull out that

1160
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:13,120
sounds like Could Be This that I
think absolutely fantastic

1161
01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:16,400
really is a really good album.
I think speaking for Angie,

1162
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:21,480
because we do share brain, even
if the music itself isn't always

1163
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:25,880
so hard and heavy like that race
car sound in the beginning of

1164
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:32,320
Death Box, the lyricism is.
Yes, yes.

1165
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:35,280
I mean, that's one of the alerts
for me too, with my camera.

1166
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:38,800
Yeah, their music is usually
really hard, but their lyrics

1167
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:41,800
are also very kind of dark and
mysterious.

1168
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:45,280
And this song, like, the first
time I listened to Monochrome,

1169
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:48,600
obviously I was thinking in
black and white since that's a

1170
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:51,440
name, but it took me to this old
creepy house, right?

1171
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:54,640
And it's like, not scary, but
there's moonlight coming in and

1172
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:56,320
there's curtains blowing in the
breeze.

1173
01:05:56,320 --> 01:06:00,600
And it just felt very old and
really mysterious, I think.

1174
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:05,680
And then I love again for the
verse, that bass line.

1175
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:08,480
There's such a groovy, deep bass
line.

1176
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:10,360
It's dark.
It feels very dark.

1177
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:13,240
But again, it kind of lures you
in.

1178
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:17,640
Ash does not get enough credit
credit for being for his

1179
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:19,800
technical prowess.
He does not.

1180
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:25,560
The man is a freaking fantastic
bass player and he doesn't get

1181
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:27,800
enough credit for his playing
ability.

1182
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:31,120
He just doesn't.
Well, I think that everybody had

1183
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:35,520
sort of chances to shine in this
album, which is nice too.

1184
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:38,760
And I do have seen people bring
up the bass, but I'm one of

1185
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:40,560
those people that's like, you
should have seen me.

1186
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:43,640
And I kept saying to my
daughter, that part, the bass,

1187
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:45,560
and she goes, no, the bass can't
play that high.

1188
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:47,800
Listen to this part and she's
like, sing it.

1189
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:50,960
Like, that's the bass.
Like, I don't always know what's

1190
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:53,000
what.
I'm not so good at deciphering

1191
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:57,440
the difference until I really
try to find the dark lowest

1192
01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:00,200
notes.
In it or if it's like a solo wee

1193
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:04,560
bit and you're always so good at
picking out like the drums, hi

1194
01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:09,200
hat or a snare drum and I'm not
good at telling which is which

1195
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:11,200
really.
So you obviously have a good ear

1196
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:13,120
for that.
Yeah, I used to like, you know,

1197
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:15,120
sit in the living room with
pillows and my drumsticks and

1198
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:18,120
try and, like, listen to music
and try to match the movements

1199
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:20,640
to what I heard.
So I think that helped, too.

1200
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:24,640
Yeah.
But what a masterpiece though,

1201
01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:26,920
start to finish.
And I'm so excited that we have

1202
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:32,800
so many new songs to play on
repeat and learn and really like

1203
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:42,840
sink guard deep into immerse
ourselves in like a warm bubble

1204
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:45,640
bath is how I put it on an
Instagram post.

1205
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:48,160
You know, like I really want to
do what Angie did.

1206
01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:49,920
I want to listen now a different
way.

1207
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:52,240
So I've heard it like out loud
in my kitchen bopping around.

1208
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:55,120
I've heard it on my TV.
I have yet to hear it in the

1209
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:59,400
car, but I want to do like the
in the dark headphones where

1210
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:02,600
it's just like that crisp,
clear, good sound in your ears

1211
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:06,400
and your senses are only focused
on what you're hearing.

1212
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:10,440
I definitely want to try it that
way and I'm so excited to do

1213
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:11,160
that.
Actually.

1214
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:13,240
That sounds perfect.
Yeah, I really liked it.

1215
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:16,120
I really liked it.
I I don't have proper words to

1216
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:20,000
say about this album.
I feel like any sort of

1217
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:25,840
complimentary things that I say,
it's not enough to express how I

1218
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:27,960
feel about it.
I just, you know what?

1219
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:30,600
I know you, I know you guys know
how I feel.

1220
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:35,359
So other than it's absolutely
masterful.

1221
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:38,520
These guys are genius.
And the tears, jerky moments.

1222
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:40,760
Dave, did you feel any tear
jerky moments?

1223
01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:44,359
Yeah, yeah.
When you pick up on certain

1224
01:08:44,359 --> 01:08:48,040
lyrics, as I've said earlier, I
haven't sit there, I haven't

1225
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:53,080
delve deep into the lyrics, but
you can pick up certainly the

1226
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:57,800
with my friends all got sponsors
or whatever, just certain bits

1227
01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:04,720
and you all tear jerky, not so
much, but key moments.

1228
01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:06,680
Like, whoa, moments.
I guess that's what it is.

1229
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:08,520
Doesn't necessarily have to
bring a tear to your eye, but

1230
01:09:09,279 --> 01:09:12,479
yeah.
Yeah, there's takes a There's

1231
01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:15,359
only a few albums that will make
me cry, but this isn't one of

1232
01:09:15,359 --> 01:09:20,680
them.
Yeah, I How do you sum the album

1233
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:26,359
up in 3 words?
I like when someone pointed out

1234
01:09:26,359 --> 01:09:29,840
or described it as you can feel
the love that went into it.

1235
01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:35,080
Yes, absolutely.
The love and care that went into

1236
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:41,120
it, the time, attention, it's
just like, this is no rush job.

1237
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:47,399
This is no, it's obviously it's
been like what, 3 1/2 years?

1238
01:09:47,399 --> 01:09:52,960
Or at least of planning it.
And I wonder what it would have

1239
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:58,880
been if things were different.
I wonder if the way things have

1240
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:01,600
transpired over the last year
and a half have shaped and

1241
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:08,120
molded or changed the themes or
the songs themselves.

1242
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:12,640
Even even the lyrics.
For sure.

1243
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:17,960
Yeah, it's interesting thought.
And it's interesting to, it's

1244
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:20,560
like Rob, we know that's been
written for a while.

1245
01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:25,160
Yes, they may have changed it
switched up like they have done

1246
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:28,280
with Vauxholes and they're
potentially doing with Wasted

1247
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:30,640
Summer.
How many of those are new songs

1248
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:33,200
that they've written over the
last year and a half?

1249
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:34,760
Yeah.
Did they scrap what they

1250
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:37,880
initially had going on and be
like, no, we're going a

1251
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:43,720
different direction.
You know, it's like a I don't

1252
01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:46,760
watch Project Runway or anything
about the fashion world, how the

1253
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:49,880
the collection has to be
cohesive and like all look like

1254
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:51,240
it's part of the same
collection.

1255
01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:54,440
So like all the songs have to
feel like they're part of the

1256
01:10:54,440 --> 01:10:58,200
same album, which is why I think
it's fine that wasted summers

1257
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:01,000
not here because it wouldn't
blend in with the rest.

1258
01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:05,720
Same thing with even sober.
You know, it's just this has it

1259
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:09,320
all works together at all.
They're all unique songs, but

1260
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:12,640
they all come from the same cut,
from the same cloth maybe?

1261
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:15,960
Really good observation.
Absolutely.

1262
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:20,200
And I at first when the graphics
came out, and maybe we had only

1263
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:23,160
heard just Rob, I love the
graphics, but I was struggling

1264
01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:26,960
to find the connection because
Rob is more of a bop, kind of an

1265
01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:29,640
up, you know?
Indie pop Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1266
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:31,640
yeah.
Yeah, and I'm like, how does the

1267
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:35,320
that song relate to these
graphics?

1268
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:40,720
And now that we have the whole
album, I can totally see how it

1269
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:45,000
fits together.
It helped that Yousef explained

1270
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:48,680
about the colouring as well.
I thought that was really neat.

1271
01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:51,400
It was.
Fascinating to hear him talk

1272
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:55,320
about how many horror and like
thriller suspense elements were

1273
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:58,680
in those videos.
You know, you sit there and once

1274
01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:03,560
you rewatch them after chatting
with him, wow, takes a whole

1275
01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:05,040
different perspective and it's
like you.

1276
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:09,280
Say, how do you shout out?
Yeah, how does this fit in?

1277
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:11,480
How does Rob fit in with the
rest?

1278
01:12:11,480 --> 01:12:16,760
Now I fully understand it more.
Yeah, you had a theory about and

1279
01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:19,320
if you want to bring it up here
because it could be a sentence

1280
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:23,640
how you thought baptism played
in in the universe with the

1281
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:26,240
other music videos.
You had a thought on that.

1282
01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:28,480
Dave, I remember you the
beginning of this chat.

1283
01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:31,400
Yeah, so where does baptism come
in?

1284
01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:33,960
I don't want your in the videos.
You brought it up, Sir.

1285
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:36,160
Yeah.
But that was a question that I

1286
01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:40,640
was going to ask you.
You're just asking it, what are

1287
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:42,880
you thinking?
Think that's what Will's

1288
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:47,640
character is watching or
studying upon because he had

1289
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:54,520
that book at his on his the side
table when he's watching the TV.

1290
01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:58,440
That's so good, because I was
going to tell you that I

1291
01:12:58,440 --> 01:13:00,960
honestly don't have a clue, but
that's so good.

1292
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:04,320
Leslie, thanks.
Did you say no?

1293
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:08,640
Well, OK, Enlighten us.
Enlighten us.

1294
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:12,200
I thought you said no.
It's like.

1295
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:17,920
I said so, so so does it.
Very.

1296
01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:20,280
So what is it?
Is it the first video?

1297
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:25,280
I don't know that it has to be.
It could be a side offshoot, it

1298
01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:28,960
could be a sub side plot story
thing.

1299
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:32,560
Like I think it could be that
he's a lost soul in that chair

1300
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:37,760
and he's looking for something
and that's why he has that book.

1301
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:38,880
What is it called?
Common?

1302
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:41,000
Oh, it says common touch.
That book that's next to him.

1303
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:44,800
It says William Gold on it, that
leather bound book.

1304
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:48,600
I think that he's he may be a
follower or is dipping his toes

1305
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:52,240
into it because he's lost and
needs to find something and

1306
01:13:52,440 --> 01:13:54,200
maybe he thinks maybe he could
heal him.

1307
01:13:55,560 --> 01:14:00,080
Maybe we should look, are there
any of those VH s s in that like

1308
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:02,640
on his TV stand or something?
I wonder.

1309
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:05,320
We're going to have to look,
aren't we?

1310
01:14:05,440 --> 01:14:08,640
I never thought about that.
You just have all the good

1311
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:10,920
takes.
This is my life.

1312
01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:14,400
This is what I do.
No, literally, this is my life,

1313
01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:18,320
right?
This is where my head is at

1314
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:22,280
24/7, like literally 24/7.
I couldn't sleep.

1315
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:27,360
I put the phone in my.
Pillow case last night are.

1316
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:33,000
You kidding me?
Because I knew we had this early

1317
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:36,400
in the morning and I thought if
I listen well as I'm going to

1318
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:41,080
sleep and it just was on, it
would like slide around and my

1319
01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:43,080
head would be like on my hard
phone and then it would get

1320
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:44,840
louder or quieter.
Then I couldn't hear it because

1321
01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:47,240
my ears pressed on the pillow
and that the phone's over here

1322
01:14:47,240 --> 01:14:52,440
and like Dave's.
I was like, I wish I had like

1323
01:14:52,440 --> 01:14:57,000
comfy earbud things that I could
listen to that won't like be

1324
01:14:57,000 --> 01:14:59,240
hard on the pillow.
I really tried.

1325
01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:01,640
I really tried, guys, but I was
up like every hour and I was

1326
01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:03,040
like still trying to make it
work.

1327
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:07,360
Oh my gosh.
I thought if I just like like I

1328
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:11,760
don't.
Know like osmosis?

1329
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:18,040
I don't know.
Anyhow, before we go question,

1330
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:25,720
what song would you most like to
see live because you 2 are due

1331
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:30,440
for it next?
I got it I know it death box I

1332
01:15:30,440 --> 01:15:35,200
want to see will say girl spit
it out really bad live.

1333
01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:43,320
That would be fantastic.
I'm going to go with baptism

1334
01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:49,440
because I want to see Joe's
good.

1335
01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:52,400
Call.
I don't know what you call it.

1336
01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:58,520
You know this thing?
Yeah, do.

1337
01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:02,520
Not put that in there.
You do that in there too.

1338
01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:04,200
Good.
My God.

1339
01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:08,080
We're the biggest comedy hit.
This this is.

1340
01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:14,080
Horrible.
This is like our text last

1341
01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:19,040
thing.
I'm glad you leave me out of

1342
01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:23,760
those.
Got your own little What I'd

1343
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:30,000
like to do to Lovejoy group?
Chat that is not stated.

1344
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:40,160
No, no, I'm gonna die.
This should be the commercial

1345
01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:43,240
right here.
Put me in the death box, I'm

1346
01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:45,560
done cooked.
She's interred.

1347
01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:48,760
There you go.
OK.

1348
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:53,160
But yeah, I'll, I'll go with
baptism and I won't just, I

1349
01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:55,160
won't say anymore.
As long as he wears that wig,

1350
01:17:06,380 --> 01:17:08,140
Dave's going to show up next
episode with that wig.

1351
01:17:08,140 --> 01:17:11,260
No, I've got so much crudeness.
I I'm going to.

1352
01:17:11,340 --> 01:17:13,300
I could throw back, but I'm not
going to.

1353
01:17:15,420 --> 01:17:20,100
That's surprising.
No, I'm just leaving it to you 2

1354
01:17:20,100 --> 01:17:28,600
to dig yourself holes.
Foxholes digging our own graves,

1355
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:31,720
Yeah.
Yeah, all.

1356
01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:39,080
Right.
Anyway, so thank you for

1357
01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:40,720
listening this episode of the
podcast.

1358
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:44,800
Next time, I think we may delve
deeper into the music video for

1359
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:48,360
baptism.
We'll actually be going to the

1360
01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:52,200
gig soon.
The end of this month, Angie and

1361
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:54,240
I will be in Chicago.
Yeah.

1362
01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:58,880
What date's that?
27th I do believe, yeah,

1363
01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:00,400
something like that.
It's.

1364
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:03,440
Yeah, something like that.
Oh, but before then, I'm hoping

1365
01:18:03,440 --> 01:18:06,920
to hear from someone attending
their first show in North

1366
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:11,240
America in Boston to find out
how the VIP works for everyone

1367
01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:14,480
that's going and is curious
about how it all plays out.

1368
01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:17,600
So we'll bring that to you one
way or another.

1369
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:20,560
But again, thank you.
Keep an eye on the website

1370
01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:23,920
lvjynation.com.
Please leave us your comments

1371
01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:27,160
wherever you listen to the show.
Send us an e-mail, Dave.

1372
01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:31,720
Anything to add?
Vote for your favorite song on

1373
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:33,960
the website.
If you can pick just one.

1374
01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:37,920
If you can pick just one.
All right, guys.

1375
01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:39,680
Thank you.
Take care.

1376
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:40,840
See you guys.